Actually, it’s 5 4 10 12 2 9 8 11 6 7 3 1 for me, but too lazy to edit the image
Which language provides the most random alphabetically sorted sequence?
Data
| N | Eng | Dut | Ger | Tur | Chi | Lex | |----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----| | 1 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 6 | 8 | 1 | | 2 | 11 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 10 | | 3 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 9 | 11 | | 4 | 4 | 11 | 11 | 9 | 6 | 12 | | 5 | 9 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | | 6 | 1 | 10 | 9 | 2 | 4 | 3 | | 7 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 10 | 7 | 4 | | 8 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 11 | 10 | 5 | | 9 | 10 | 4 | 4 | 12 | 12 | 6 | | 10 | 3 | 5 | 10 | 8 | 11 | 7 | | 11 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 8 | | 12 | 2 | 7 | 12 | 7 | 1 | 9 |
Sourced from comments in thread (English from image, Dutch from !Vinny_93@lemmy.world, German from !TJA@sh.itjust.works , Turkish from some rando, Chinese from !idealotus@lemmy.world, Lexicographical from !monogram@feddit.nl)
Plot with Correlation Scores
We will compute the pearson correlation (r-statistic) score by comparing the base number (column 1) with the corresponding language column. We will also compute the Serial correlation, by creating staggered columns that measure how close a number is in a sequence to the one before it.
Staggered Table
cat alphabetic.tab \ | awk '{print $0"\t"prE"\t"prD"\t"prG"\t"prT"\t"prC"\t"prL;prE=$2;prD=$3;prG=$4;prT=$5;prC=$6;prL=$7}' \ | tee alphabetic.tab.stagger
Plot Code
gnuplot -p -e ' set xlabel "Base Sequence"; set ylabel "Alphabetic"; set xtics 1,1,12; set ytics 1,1,12; set title "Alphabetic Number Plot with Correlation Score"; set rmargin 25; set key at graph 1.5,0.9; set size ratio 0.45; stats "alphabetic.tab.stagger" using 1:2 name "E"; stats "" using 1:3 name "D"; stats "" using 1:4 name "G"; stats "" using 1:5 name "T"; stats "" using 1:6 name "C"; stats "" using 1:7 name "L"; stats "" using 2:8 name "ES"; stats "" using 3:9 name "DS"; stats "" using 4:10 name "GS"; stats "" using 5:11 name "TS"; stats "" using 6:12 name "CS"; stats "" using 7:13 name "LS"; set label 1 sprintf("%10s %6s %6s", "", "Base", "Stagger") at graph 1.07,0.95; plot "" using 1:2 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s %+.3f %+.3f", "English", E_correlation, ES_correlation), "" using 1:3 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s %+.3f %+.3f", "Dutch", D_correlation, DS_correlation), "" using 1:4 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s %+.3f %+.3f", "German", G_correlation, GS_correlation), "" using 1:5 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s %+.3f %+.3f", "Turkish", T_correlation, TS_correlation), "" using 1:6 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s %+.3f %+.3f", "Chinese", C_correlation, CS_correlation), "" using 1:7 with lines lw 1 title sprintf("%10s %+.3f %+.3f", "Lexicon", L_correlation, LS_correlation) '
It looks like Dutch has the lowest (near 0) correlation to both the base sequence and it’s own staggered sequence, with Turkish mirroring it’s staggered randomness somewhat.
The least random alphabetic sequences are English and German.
Updated: Added chinese and staggered analysis.
c/dataisbeautiful
You put a lot of work into this.
Thank you for doing and sharing this
This is the second comment I’ve seen like this from you.
Please never stop.
I didn’t expect soneone to put that much effort into it.
Thanks! This is awesome!
Thanks, i hate it :)
I recently found out that javascript’s .sort() function, when called without arguments on an array of numbers, converts them all to strings and sorts them alphabetically 🤡
I’m a C programmer. My first time writing Javascript and ran into some sort of bug involving a === sign or something. Javascript is a silly language.
console.log("10"+1); // "101" console.log("10"-1); // 9
The epitomy of irony is a JavaScript developer insisting that some other language is “a fractal of bad design” without immediately acknowledging that JS is weird as hell.
I like Lua’s design. Separate addition (
x+y
) and concatenation (x..y
) operators ftw!Edit: and just, like, everything else about Lua too
I will have to look into it soon. It has a JIT compiler. I like that.
Javascript lets you compare unlike types without extra steps using ==. If you want strict comparison where “2” isn’t 2, use === and !==. Personally, I find that easier than having to parseint or cast every damn thing or whatever c does (strtol?). That said, I have build tools set up to enforce strict comparison because I don’t trust myself or others.
Truish and falsish and nullish are all concepts made up by madmen. JavaScript is the language of the damned.
5 4 10 2 12 9 6 7 8 11 3 1
Lexicographical clock
1 10 11 12 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
You’re missing 2
1 10 11 12 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
2 is overrated tbh
2 is overrated
tbh2bh2 is over
rate8dtbh2bh
Acht, drie, een, elf, negen, tien, twaalf, twee, vier, vijf, zes, zeven.
8, 3, 1, 11, 9, 10, 12, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7
I don’t even know 100% that this is Dutch, but Dutch so often reads and sounds like someone German who doesn’t know English trying to speak English and I love the language because of it ❤️
Dutch is an Anglo-Saxon language so that makes sense.
Standard Dutch is not Anglo-Saxon but some other Dutch dialects/languages like Frisian are.
Acht, drei, eins, elf, fünf, neun, sechs, sieben, vier, zehn, zwei, zwölf
8, 3, 1, 11, 5, 9, 6, 7, 4, 10, 2, 12
Ah there it is. The real language, not the one a confused toddler trying to learn German speaks
altı beş bir dokuz dört iki on onbir oniki sekiz üç yedi
6 5 1 9 4 2 10 11 12 8 3 7
Transliterating from Mandarin Chinese and using English dictionary order
Ba Er Jiu Liu Qi San Si Shi ShiEr ShiYi Wu Yi
8 2 9 6 3 4 7 10 12 11 5 1 八 二 九 六 三 四 七 十 十二 十一 五 一
Thanks, I’ve added it to the analysis: https://lemmy.ml/post/32382201/19537907
I still don’t understand how acht=12
acht=12
Gesundheit.
Ah no I started at one. You can transpose my list by one and set zeven as 12.
Portuguese
cinco, dez, dois, doze, nove, oito, onze, quatro, seis, sete, três, um
5 10 2 12 9 8 11 4 6 7 3 1
cinco, dez, dois, doze, meia, nove, oito, onze, quatro, sete, três, um
5 10 2 12 6 9 8 11 4 7 3 1
(six can be “seis” or “meia”)
Mine is Spanish
Cinco (5), cuatro (4), diez (10), doce (12), dos (2), nueve (9), ocho (8), once (11), seis (6), siete (7), tres (3), una (1)
Interestingly it would be right twice a day
I’d think four times: 4:20, 4:35, 7:20, 7:35
I’m stupid and read the clock wrong and didn’t check even a little.
You’ll fit in here just fine!
Okay, here’s the challenge: Make it always tell the correct time 8:30 should point to the 8 with the little hand and the 6 with the big hand. And 8:35 shoudl point to the 7 with the big hand.
Was thinking the same thing. This has to be possible, within reason of course
I could get it done with a couple stepper motors, an Arduino, probably a couple hall effect sensors.
In that case, I am officially challenging you. But if you do end up doing it. My instance is shutting down on Monday, so you won’t be able to tag me :(
Make an account elsewhere and comment on this post.
Challenge accepted.
I both love and hate this
If a mechanical clock or watch was like that it would be one hell of a fascinating movement
It’s 9 o’clock somewhere!
What time is it?
It’s Beer O’clock!Ah yes its nearly 8:03 o’clock
Or nearly 56 minutes to 11:08
Cinq Deux Dix Douze Huit Neuf Onze Quatre Sept Six Trois Un
5 2 10 12 8 9 11 4 7 6 3 1
I don’t get it
The numbers are sorted by their English spellings.
What?
Two, Eight, Eleven, — not gonna type it all out because it’s already wrong.
What am I missing here?
“Two” is the last one. The order starts with “eight”.
Think about it: on a real analogue clock, where is the smallest number and where is the largest?
Thank you, I was so confused and stuck lol. I always just treated the top as the starting spot because the days starts at 12:00 AM. That’s what I get for trying to think through this well past my bedtime 🤣
I was equally confused initially, but then I looked at the clock in my house and realized that the number up top is the highest number, 12, and not 0. So the first number in the ordering is at the position of the 1 of a normal clock.
If it makes you feel better I did the same lol
You’re missing the lack of logic, aka you’re not missing shit, OP has some soul searching to do.
What lack of logic? The numbers on the clock are sorted based on the alphabetical order when they’re spelled out in English. Just like with a real clock, the top number is the highest, not the lowest. That seems quite logical to me
Is it a meme or a riddle?
Just a silly joke, I guess.