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      Most very fancy restaurants allow you to bring your own wine, but they still need to make money, so they charge you a fee to remove the cork and pour it for you.

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        I don’t know how it is in the states, but in my country it doesn’t have to be a fancy place. The BYO license is a lower category than a full alcohol license and many cheap to medium price restaurants which don’t otherwise serve alcohol allow bringing wine, charge just a few dollars, and don’t pour it for you.

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        Corkage fees aren’t specific to high end restaurants entirely. I know plenty of restaurants, with an avg $15 a meal, that charge corkage because its a simpler permit to acquire than a full liquor license. A lot of my favorite restaurants are ones that have corkage fees because you get to buy cheap alcoholic instead of the upsell on $80 bottles of wine at a mid restaurant.

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        Jokes on them, I’m too poor for anything but a twist top bottle of wine. The Boone’s Farm and Gallo Fam rise up!!

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            When I was in the military I had a buddy from new york and he would get a jug of carlo rossi every weekend, mix it like 50/50 with coca cola. He called it “gajoots” or something. (no idea on spelling, that’s what the word sounded like in *his accent)

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              I’ve never tried that, we used to put out pinky finger through the loop then kind of rest it in the crook of our arms to hoist it up and chug it faster. It seemed pretty awkward but it was effective.

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    i first heard of a corkage fee this summer and it weirded me the heck out. what do you mean people bring their own bottle to restaurants? isn’t the point of those kinds of places that they select a wine that goes well with the food?

    not that i can even drink wine but still…

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        no because the sulphides combine with my medication to give me turbo-hangovers after a quarter of a glass.

        but the airplane explanation is funnier so yeah, it’s that

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            i feel like that’s more of an allergy thing than a preference thing though.

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            I also thought that I was really intolerant of sulfites, as most red wine gives me a headache directly, but it doesn’t seem to be just that…

            One way I noticed this was that my boss’s favorite beer is Breznak, and so when he gave me a can as my first drink after-work, I got immediately headached, despite that it should have pretty low levels of sulfites. And then I made the connection a couple weeks later when the same thing happened. So the third time he wanted to hang after work, I took some macro lagers with me (Norrlands Guld), and I drank several without problems.

            I can even drink a ton of vodka and not have a headache the next day… but if you give me a half glass of red wine or many different kinds of beer, I immediately get the worst headaches. I wish I knew why.

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          So is it only wine that messes you up? It’d be interesting to know if you get any negative reactions from Breznak for example next time you’re at Systembolaget (if you even drink, I dunno)

          No one ever believes me; they genuinely seem to think I get hungover even if I drink just a single beer. Then I can drink them under the table with any kind of spirits, and have no hangover the next day.

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            i have no problem with beer and spirits, but blended drinks and wine hit like a truck. as far as i can tell the common thread seems to be the sulphites.

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      If you think about it, there are hundreds of thousands of combinations of wine labels and vintages from thousands of producers. Some people who collect the wine and store it at home will want to enjoy the wine they have with a professionally prepared meal, and will bring that wine to a restaurant, and enjoy the entire service aspect of it (pouring into nice glasses, etc.).

      It doesn’t make much sense for ordinary bottles of wine. So the people who do this usually bring special, hard to find, significantly aged, or sentimental bottles. And because the restaurant still provides the service of opening and pouring the wine into nice glasses that they’ll clean, there’s usually a per bottle charge added to the bill.

      So it’s not super common, just also not super rare, either.

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        but why would you bring that kind of wine to an edinburgh curry house (which is where i first saw it mentioned)

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          Sometimes you can bring a cheap bottle of wine and even with the corkage fee it ends up being less than the cheapest bottle of wine at the restaurant.

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          Does that curry house have an alcohol licence? Because some don’t (either for religious reasons or cost, I’m not sure), but they’re still providing glasses that will need to be washed.

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          It’s just a really easy thing for restaurants to do. Even if it’s not listed many will do this.

          I have only ever encountered it in the context of wine though. I wonder what would have if I brought a bottle of whiskey.

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          Generally this is done for cost reasons by the customer. Wine in restaurants is expensive, corkage doesn’t make up the difference, so people looking to save some money will bring their own, pay the fee and still come out on top. Fancy restaurants with sommeliers don’t advertise this (idk if that means they don’t do it though)

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      Ayyyy I do this a lot if I don’t know the place. I’ve spent a lot of time and effort figuring out what I like and have a collection to match my preferences.

      If they have the styles and regions I like I order off menu, if not I got mine. $30 corkage is reasonable for a decent restaurant, I know a dive bar that does $10 and a bunch of us go there for snacks and to bust out bottles to share.

      All good bottles should be shared.

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      Sometimes people will bring a bottle from a particular year (year they got married on a big anniversary date) or will have some other particular sentimental reasoning for this, so it’s not very often.

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        sure but if it doesn’t happen very often there’s no real reason to charge for it?

        maybe it’s differing alcohol cultures, idk. according to some bullshit map i saw years ago i live in the “vodka belt”, so maybe i’m too drunk off of ambient fumes to get it.

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          Yes but the up-charge on wine is absolutely obscene and can frequently be more than what they earn on the food. Additionally, the places that can get away with this are the kind of places where arguing about what would be a relatively small charge on the bill would be so incredibly awkward that you wouldn’t dare.

          So it’s extortion basically, but fancy.

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            so the reason i haven’t seen it is probably the alcohol tax that adds 50€/liter of pure ethanol to every beverage. it’s just not useful here.

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              wait.

              as in, every beverage has 50£ worth of pure ethanol added to it? if so… no wonder Slavs are always depicted as drunk off their asses LOL

              or is it a 50£ per litre of pure ethanol on each pallet of alcoholic beverages (eg… 2l of pure ethanol adds 100£ of tax to the pallet price)?

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                a 10% ABV half-litre bottle will have 2.5€ in tax added to its price for the ethanol content.

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          Here’s a non-wine related thing often charged by restaurants: a cake-cutting fee. The restaurant offers desserts which you won’t be buying, and yet they are supplying you with plates and forks, and they will keep your cake safe in the kitchen until dessert, bring it out to be admired with maybe candles and a song, or a toast to the happy couple, then they’ll cut and plate and pass the slices, and afterwards they’ll wash the dishes. So they charge a fee to pay for the people and supplies.

          We had a birthday party at a sushi train restaurant and brought a rainbow cake. We’d agreed to pay $20 or something over the total of all the sushi everyone ate. They turned down the lights and sent out the cake as individual slices on individual plates each with a lit candle flickering on it, and the teenagers loved it, which is pretty hard to do because teenagers.

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          If there was no charge then everyone would bring their own, and they would have to start charging more for the food to make up for the loss.

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      I’ve only seen it in practice when someone is throwing a large party and wants to bring their own cheaper wine. It can even be the exact same wine.

      Paying the full restaurant markup on the wine can be excessive if you hold a wedding for 70 people and if you can find it much cheaper from tax free or bulk purchase. It would still make sense to pay the corkage fee then.

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      Where I live bring your own places would be cheap end restaurants not ones that pair the right wine with food.

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        Even high end restaurants stock mostly swill for profit margins. To find a restaurant with good wine is to find a unicorn. In the US, anyway

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        that’s even weirder, because as far as i understand it, the things that pair well with cigars are in general not things you need to have at specific places.

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          It’s not really about the pairing, if these places allow liquor they usually have a nice selection or is byob. Many cigar shops only carry certain brands, and many cigars aren’t meant to be smoked when you buy them, but to be aged.

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              I mean I do that all the time, but I don’t want to smoke in my house, and it’s too cold to do outside 1/3 or more of the year.

    • I do it because my partner and I don’t drink but we still like to feel fancy and have bubbly when we go out for anniversaries and whatnot. Especially in a group setting, I’m happy to pay the fee to not have people bring attention to us not drinking by having our own NA bubbly.

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    To the baby: “Excellent vintage. You’ll want to make sure those nips aerate before enjoying so they are fully erect.”

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      Its something restaurants charge when you bring your own booze. Often times when something like a wedding rents out a whole restaurant and wants to bring their own stuff, the restaurant charges a corkage fee.

      Most charge an exorbitant fee to incentivize getting the booze from them and it leads to situations, where a party pays 30€ to serve a 8€ bottle of rum.

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    I’ve been to some restaurants where they don’t charge a corkage fee as long as they don’t sell the wine you bring.