So I’m European and am aware that American culture is very different in many ways. Idk if this is just some type of thing about American culture and mentality in general that has always been there or if it is a trend that started recently in the past few years.
I don’t wanna generalize any country and know that not everyone is like this but I definitely noticed this type of pattern.
I increasingly noticed in the past years that many Americans are very hateful/cruel, are lacking empathy, become more and more aggressive and it seems like it’s becoming worse.
I’m not sure if this is maybe related to Americans needing to be “though” or something because I always hear about that the American mentality is pretty competitive and individualistic and instead of saying “we will go through this this together” they often have this mentality “it’s either me or you but it can’t be both who will win”. I mean I’m pretty sure that all these things like this biking culture, driving big “manly” pick up trucks, wrestling, football etc. are pretty prevalent in America compared to other countries and American culture generally seems very loud and direct. I think here in Europe people are way more reserved and I guess the strongest opposite to Americans are probably Japanese people. Maybe American culture is generally more “rough” where they aren’t super sensitive and don’t really care how their words come over and just speak their mind (maybe cause they value free speech so much).
But to me this seems to go to the point where many Americans seem to have this attitude and are very ignorant and arrogant and basically think they’re better than anyone else and they only care for themselves.
And it feels like it’s so extreme to the point where everyone is hating, attacking and bashing on everyone and instead of being stronger united they’re just fighting against themselves and putting each other down and they always focus on the negative.
Especially online it seems like that no matter what the topic is and independent from whether they are Democrat or Republican they’re constantly bashing on someone and baselessly calling them “weak” even though in reality they’re probably the ones who are weak and trample onto people cause they’re obviously dissatisfied with themselves and aren’t able to man-up to face the real issues. You just can’t blame everything on others and have to take responsibility for yourself!
Some stuff that I’ve seen on American news like “Fox News” just seemed crazy where the reporters personally attack and bash on people which is something that would be unthinkable in Europe.
Even though many people were saying that Americans have this “fake friendliness” I’m thinking that even that disappeared in the last few years and they’re becoming more open to show what they really think which seems to be that they “don’t give a f* about you”.
Many Americans that I encountered seem so aggressive like they always need to bash onto something in this toxic way even though they’re actually in a very good position and have a lot to be grateful for. Like in other poor countries people have real problems and are literally starving because they have no food or they have war in their country.
I’m always thinking “dude, you need to chill” cause literally no one is attacking them and they’re fully secure. But it seems like they’re always searching for a fight or something.
It seems like many of these people are so disconnected from nature and become less human and I wonder why they can’t just spend meaningful time with other people being positive and not constantly waste their time with hating or complaining about something. Because this just doesn’t work and in a society with multiple people especially in a world where everything is more connected than ever we need to hold together and have empathy for one and another. That is one of the core morals that a human needs!
It seems like many Americans generally have this “cruelness” about them cause I also heard things that many Americans are physically beating their children and even the fact that guns are popular and legal in America to the point where you can’t even safely walk alone in public during the night or safely send your kid to school and also this general mindset of America is doing everything the best and “America first”. I really don’t wanna bash on Americans at all and only want to share my experience because I just haven’t experienced this type of hate here in Europe in that extreme way and it just makes me very uncomfortable because I feel like this mood is affecting the whole world since American media and influence is prevalent everywhere.
To me it feels like this won’t end well and it feels like it’s just a matter of time until something very bad happens like the second civil war or so and the storm on the capitol might be nothing compared to that. But maybe that’s the only way they will finally learn if they’re lacking these core morals and integrity and they don’t get educated about that in school.
It also seems like they can’t handle critique and can’t admit it/stand to those things. When I once asked a similar question on Reddit the only thing I got back was bashing and personal attacks and I hope it’s not the same here, cause that is literally just proving my point. There needs to be constructive discussions.
I apologize, I stopped reading about halfway through your post.
A lot of the call outs in this thread to delete your social media go outside and touch grass are spot on. You’re way too deep in social media and the 24hr news cycle.
I work in an industry that is very much conservative. Even the devoted MAGA people I meet are generally very nice if you speak with them outside of politics. A handful of the ones that seek out and want to talk politics (which is rare) are calm and I usually can get them to acknowledge the shortcomings of Trump when I start questioning the inconsistencies of his policies.
Our politics have grown courser and more extreme because of social media and the news cycle. The MAGA politicians of the Republican party take extreme positions to get attention. Moderation is ignored because it doesn’t grab headlines.
Yes Republican policies and very bad for our nation. But it doesn’t mean common citizens share those views. Usually it is much more nuanced.
You’re probably right on that one. Unfortunately I have too many insecurities to face the real world💀
Delete your social media, turn off the TV, go outside, talk with people. Is it hateful? No. You’re being lied to.
I would argue that any actual increased aggression could simply be attributed to the state of the country (the US federal government is broken) and the fact that most US americans are not having their needs met financially. The billionaires who run the system dramatically increased the prices of everything that’s not optional to pay for: food, housing, insurance, etc…
People feel helpless, overworked, and angry.
This is how I feel, and I know a lot of folks who are in a similar boat. We’re sold this story of being financially stable, having a house, a car, and being able to retire, but for a lot of Americans that is looking more and more like a pipe dream each day.
The poorly educated/informed people eat up the propaganda like candy, vote against their own interests, and tear down everyone around them in hopes that they’ll be on top one day, and it simply won’t happen in the present state our country is in.
A large portion of men are not doing mentally well at all. Increasing suicide rates and decreasing employment participation are just some of the indicators here.
Because they feel weak, there is a tendency to gravitate towards strongmen and dreams of dominance which lead to aggressive antisocial behaviors.
There does not appear to be anyone attempting to solve any of these problems main because those who could fix the problems are the ones who are able to utilize these fears for personal gain. Monetarily and or for political power. A subset of these people are amplifying these problems for the same purpose, personal gain.
I think the combination of access to anonymous social media, or at least access to media without any physical interaction, leads to a lack of empathy and hostile behavior. Then you have the echo chamber effect where any group has its beliefs amplified and the extreme members get the most attention. It is trivial to react hostilely and leave a comment like “Go kill yourself” on someone’s post. The other person is just a block of text to you. When I write something I have to reread it a few times to determine “How will someone misinterpret this negatively?” and sometimes I feel like I’m writing for an audience of rabid dogs just itching to bite me. All too often even the most innocuous comment will still get a ridiculously hostile response. I’d say this isn’t just an American issue on the internet either. I see it with Europeans and Asians. It is a human issue.
Sadly now negativity has become a kneejerk response. Every stranger’s motivations are a personal attack on you, everything is part of some grand conspiracy aimed at you, etc. America’s obsession with individualism vs society as a whole seems to have reduced everyone to a crazed survivalist hiding in their bunker.
“many Americans are physically beating their children”
I’d say this is MUCH less now than in the past and is now strictly enforced.
“you can’t even safely walk alone in public during the night”
Depends on where you live. There have always been “bad neighborhoods” in cities and this is true around the world. I have never felt in danger walking alone at night around my area. I’m sure there are neighborhoods in, say, Paris or Marseille you wouldn’t walk around by yourself at night.
To be honest I don’t care if I’m interacting online or not I try to be respectful cause I’m interacting with other humans.
Maybe I’m a little extreme on the other side but I have a lot of love for almost everything and really don’t have much to complain about. I don’t see the reason to tell someone something negative if I could say something positive instead.
I have this motto “If I don’t have anything nice to say, I don’t say anything at all”. I think having more empathy and being more sensitive towards people is exactly what many Americans need. I’m not saying everyone is like this but most of the time I only hear what they don’t like if you say you like this and that artist for example it’s almost guaranteed that someone will say “I hate that artist” instead of “great music”.
Car-centric infrastructure and American individualism have made USAmericans isolated and decimated communities and that has lead to a lot of bad things
The Americans I’ve met in real-life were quite chill, and reasonable. But on the Internet I too have a feeling that they are expressing stressfulness more. It seems to me they can freely talk about the things they hate, and they do it, to the point many things on the Internet about the US are those. And it’s hard to touch grasses in Winter.
Using the unsocial ‘social’ networks?
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We’re a lot of different cultures all mixed in over a large swath of land. That melting pot regularly reaches a boiling point.
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We pray to Capitalism. It is all important. All else is secondary to the almighty dollar. Many of our politicians are bought out and our legislation is determined by money. Greed guides our decision making processes.
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The internet has broken many of our brains, although that’s not just an American thing. I’ve been around long enough to have witnessed our politics go absolutely bonkers and the timeline coincides with everyone starting to carry around devices that give them access to the internet at all times. We simply aren’t educated enough as a whole to be immune or resistant to misinformation.
Personally, I don’t see our situation getting any better any time soon. It will probably get quite a bit worse, actually.
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It’s always been the case that they fight over the screps billionaires leave for them. But traditionally they had so much friendliness and companionship in and between communities but as with everything since globalisation it was polarised by information tech. Megacorps are the new tribes and that will ruin the planet if it happens, well, already have basically. Any form of collaboration would help but it’s so cool that competition breeds competence and great products right? Not remove respect for each other and nature right?
The short answer is that we haven’t really become any more hateful or cruel, however a VERY vocal minority of Americans have lost their goddamned minds and want to drag the rest of us down with them. Those are the people you’re hearing from and they make the rest of us look awful
And that minority gets an outsized place at the media table due to billionaire oligarchs who want total control.
Actuay a great summation in another post around the same time:
dont forget the raging propaganda preventing the silent majority from believing they can affect change. ~40% of people who are eligible to vote never do.
I hope it is just a minority. I remember when I once asked on Reddit why so many Americans like Donald Trump considering all the things he has done and said and they were saying it’s just a very small minority and that they personally don’t know any one who likes him. Turns out he got the popular vote making him president again. So that seemed quite detached from reality.
Here’s your answer on Trump.
How Half Of America Lost Its F**king Mind
Still as true in 2025 as it was in 2016. If you truly want to understand, read it. I read it a couple of times a year to retain my sanity, get some understanding of the seeming anarchy.
This might explain why rural voters support Trump but what about all the city dwellers who do? They aren’t mentioned at all.
And comparing Trump to House or Iron Man shows how truly ignorant they are that they pick the stupidest rich man.
Iron man and House are genius who break rules because they are forging new ones. While Trump is a conman, this says a lot about what they aspire to be and deplorable is a fitting term for it.
This was a good read, thank you
the majority of people voted for him
Eh… That’s not quite accurate. Current estimates are that 77,301,997 people voted for Trump, which is less than 50% of the 155,211,283 total votes cast. (But Kamala, the second-most-voted-for candidate got less than that at 75,017,626.)
But only about 64% of those eligible to vote voted.
So, not even half of those who did vote in the 2024 presidential election voted for Trump, let alone those who were eligible to voted, let alone all “people” in the U.S… But the ones who voted for Trump composed many more than the number of people who voted for any other candidate.
But isn’t that kind of putting lipstick on a pig? I mean got elected to become president. And 77 million is a lot of people… And I’m not sure if that’s going to change policies and society. It’s kind of accepted now to be a biggot and do harmful things. And I’m really not sure if it’s acceptable under these circumstances to be a “silent majority” anyways. I mean it’s not exactly like watching the nazis take over a country. But I think there are parallels. And I don’t think it’s ethically alright to just watch. At some point if you don’t do anything, you become part of the problem. IMO.
I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying here. Yes, even though the pro-Trump folks don’t comprise a majority of Americans, it’s exceedingly concerning that they’re as close to 50% of the U.S. population as they are. I don’t think I said otherwise, though. I also didn’t say anything about whether the anti-Trump majority (if indeed it is a majority) is/isn’t/was/wasn’t/should be/shouldn’t be “silent.”
Were the anti-Trump folks really “silent” before the election? Was there something they weren’t saying that they should have? 'Cuz it’s not like there wasn’t anybody campaigning against him.
I wasn’t even implying that. I think it’s more nuanced. And I don’t think America is as democratic as it should be. So I’m not sure if I’m even blaming the people. For a lot of things there are exactly zero solutions available, disregarding how/whom you vote. I mean I’m kind of with OP here. I’m not from the US and I can’t really relate. We just hear very different takes from overseas. Some people believe the country is turning into an authoritarian system soon, some think we’re painting an overly dark image. And I, too, wouldn’t know how to vote if you always get only 2 (fake) choices who both don’t really care for the people… So I can somehow relate to people just not taking part in voting. It’s just a bad situation. And I wish for the best. Though, I think at least 50% of the citizens have lost track on what America is about… And politics is more entertainment than solving any of the big issues. And you people in the US really have some big (societal) issues to tackle.
Let’s remember the large amount of people who couldn’t be bothered to vote.
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It’s a deliberate push by the elites. They don’t want us cooperating, because that would lead to revolt. They fill our media with identity politics, fear and hatred so that we’re too bitter to work together. It works beautifully for them.
I decided to scroll through the replies to see if anyone already said what I was going to, and you did.
Everyone thinks that irrelevant culture wars are more important than things that actually affect them directly, and our REAL enemies love it.
Let’s be cynicism buddies maybe we’ll get buried in the same mass grave
Sounds good to me!
The problem is that the “irrelevant” culture wars (identity politics, wedge issues) that don’t affect any given individuals directly are about important issues, and they’re being used by the rich as hostages. We can’t help but care about those issues, even if they don’t impact us directly, and the rich are using them as human shields while they take our watches and wallets and force us to sign over our properties
For some reason – likely because it’s propaganda – people get caught up with groups of annoying people and totally blow past the fucks destroying the planet, siphoning off all of the government money, and generally fucking over the country, and the world for their own gains.
Like I understand that you find some of our many varieties of annoying Americans annoying…like our purple haired Disney women, or flamboyant gays, or what the fuck ever…but that’s enough to base your vote on? Nuts.
They’re are too many annoying types of people in America for me to even select a grouping to hate – I lie actually, I fucking hate narcissistic billionaires that can’t stop posting – and many of the people in media are annoying as hell themselves and act as if they aren’t when discussing the random (though I know it’s not really random, it’s “LiBEraLs!”) groups they’ve selected to “destroy” with their donkey-brained podcasts.
40+ years ago the Republicans started a war against education and intellectualism. They won.
And it’s all at the direction of The Federalist Society. Reagan signed 2/3 of their Project 1985 into law, dramatically lowering the corporate and top personal tax brackets and removing the restrictions of local and national limits on network and local affiliate TV and radio ownership. Their lackey then spent decades creating enormous propoganda networks to pump the view that the wealthy are the best of us and should never be challenged. Plus, those networks constantly pump identity politics issues to polarize the popu Ace even more.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
- LBJ
Propaganda. Mostly funded by the rich, in order to, of course, stay on the top of the class hierarchy. Easier to be a filthy evil oligarch when the “rabble” just fight each other and don’t pay any attention to you, or worse, kiss your boots.
After Occupy movement was gutted by the media and police… The owner class got us fighting culture wars so we don’t gain class consciousness for the class war.
And it’s an ongoing class war that the rich have been fighting and winning my entire life while the donkey-brained, temporarily embarrassed millionaire set keep handing them hand grenades to lob at us (and themselves).
Because our empire is dying
This is factually untrue. At the end of the Trump era, China had thought they had the upper hand on the global stage, but we have put into place more stoppages around the world. So much so that Blinken said on The Interview the other day that whenever he and the Chinese ambassador meet, the ambassador starts off by complaining for 30 minutes on how the West has railroaded their plans.
He also put it eloquently, that whenever parties from other nations come together, there’s always a seat at the table available for America. They want to know our position.
Just like our union of states, it is essential that the West remain a union of nations. If we do not, then divide and conquer could absolutely mean our decline.
You mean you haven’t noticed the clear degradation of culture?
I wish I was as ignorant as you
Keep trying to will those thoughts into existence…may work out for you and your party one day.
The west already lost the US now with dickhead’s first electoral victory leading to his second term.