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    Oh man, how good would it have been if Lex Luthor was the one claiming he was fighting for truth, justice and the American way in the latest film.

    (Apologies if he does, I’ve not seen it yet, just the outraged responses.)

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      14 hours ago
      movie spoiler ish, not even a minor one

      It would have fit perfectly with his character in the movie, and it would be amazing if he said that, but he’s didn’t.

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      Been a while since I’ve seen any Superman, but I’m pretty sure a major part of Lex Luthor’s character is he’s selfish, but he also thinks he’s helping humanity by trying to get rid of Superman.

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        Yep he’s an asshole but the entire point of what he does is that Superman can just turn bad at any moment and humanity will immediately lose so he is trying to take him out before that happens.

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          His fellow billionaire Bruce Wayne has multiple contingency plans for just such an occasion. Imagine if Lex found that out and managed to get into Batman’s files.

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        some versions have him as extremely intelligent but completely selfish.

        others (sometimes) have him as extremely intelligent and selfless, and her considers superman a threat.

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          All Star Superman has a quite succinct rebuttal to Lex Luthor as a character:

          I could have made everyone see! I could have saved the world if it wasn’t for you!

          “You could have saved the world years ago if it mattered to you, Luthor.”

          (I think the book is the superior version, but I do love that the movie adds a sincere “you’re right” from Lex in this scene).

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    I have no idea how this narrative that it’s the immigrants that are the problem, so we throw them all out, is working on people. I don’t know how the idea of putting them in off-shore prisons without trials is working with people. The entire idea is costly and completely fucked. That karma is coming back on all of us.

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      Creating in groups and outgroups.

      why fix real problems you are profiting from if you can blame an innocent powerless minority.

      worst that’ll happen is you eradicate them, but then you just gotta point the blame to the next minority.

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        As I understand it, there was one timeline in the nineties where he came in a “birthing pod”, just so he’d be born in the US. That’s been changed again since; aside from that weirdness, he’s always been an immigrant.

        Which makes sense - wasn’t his concept conceived by two Jewish immigrants who wanted to give their spin on what an actual Übermensch would be like, as opposed to what Nazi Germany was putting out? Pretty sure that’s how he got his name…

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          I mean, yeah, it kinda detracts from his whole backstory. Especially if the whole reason was just to be able to say “See? He’s totally American by birthright!”.

          The whole point was that shit shouldn’t be important.

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        In the 1986 post-crisis reboot his ship was an artificial womb and he was born on Earth. That was retconned again in the 2000s, though.

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        Not in any continuity I’m aware of. They almost always show infant Kal-El being placed in the ship. My memory of Man of Steel is fuzzy so maybe that?

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          My knowledge of Superman is very basic, but I always had that image of him being placed in the pod as a baby.

          Of course there must be like 40 retellings of that scene at this point if we count all media.