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lawrence@lemmy.worldM to Comic Strips@lemmy.world · 10 months ago

Loyalty to the flag

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Loyalty to the flag

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lawrence@lemmy.worldM to Comic Strips@lemmy.world · 10 months ago
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Author’s website: www.piecomic.com

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    A country that truly believes in freedom and democracy shouldn’t require you to take a loyalty oath every day.

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      This whole thing is such a mind fuck and crazy process for people outside merica. I really thought it was a joke on movies, but realising that they are really all brainwashed since children like this makes a lot more sense when you consider everything.

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      deleted by creator

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        And it’s spreading. Denmark is pushing laws to restrict using other flags. It might be a dog whistle for anti-palestine but still. Rubs me the wrong way.

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          That’s how I feel about my state adopting laws saying Non-Citizens can’t vote. They already can’t, the only thing the law is accomplishing is a dog whistle.

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            Let me guess: Ohio?

            • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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              Thankfully not, North Carolina

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                For now

                • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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                  Oh no…

                  https://youtu.be/r3fD5FPQBtI

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      It’s almost like if you have to keep telling yourself that you live in a free country, you probably don’t.

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      And we’ve had multiple lawsuits decide exactly that - you do not have to do it.

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        With this court, all bets are off though.

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      In most schools, it’s not. But they don’t advertise that.

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        In most schools it is. 46-47 states have laws requiring it.

        https://thehill.com/homenews/3256719-47-states-require-the-pledge-of-allegiance-be-recited-in-schools-here-is-a-breakdown-of-each-states-laws/

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          West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the First Amendment protects students from being compelled to salute the American flag or say the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools.

          They can’t require participation.

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          It says I live in a state that requires it with no exceptions and that’s simply not true. In HS a lot of students didn’t participate.

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            It’s been made clear in court that students can’t be forced to make the pledge against their will.

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      Counterargument:

      If no one believes or identifies with a nation, that nation will cease to exist.

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        The idea that “things don’t exist when we stop believing in them” is something that most of us outgrow at an early age.

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          Object permanence applies to tangible objects, basically things explained by physics and constituted from energy.

          A nation is a construct of collective imagination, much like religion and economics.

          National patriotism is a religion which worships dirt.

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            This guy gets it.

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        If no one believes or identifies with a nation, that nation will cease to exist.

        Don’t threaten me with a good time

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