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We(Lemmy users) are adblock users and are tired of capitalism that ruined Reddit.

All of us didn’t come here to look at ads again or to entertain capitalist dreams of embedding ads everywhere.

My recommendation is clear, let’s ban watermarked comics and work towards ad free community.

At the end, music don’t have watermarks and neither do art. So why should comics have watermarks?

Linking to the source should be the primary way of attribution.

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    The vast standard is music ships with the artist’s name baked into the metadata. It’s watermarked that way, kept in the fringes of the data, away from the main piece, just like a signature on the fringes of the artpiece. This is not new, nearly every artist does it. That’s often why we can ID physical art centuries later, and it’s why you rarely ever stumble into a song file you can’t identify the artist of.

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    Counter proposal: ban OP from this community along with anyone else who removes artist trademarks from comics they post.

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      Can we genuinely bring this idea to the mods? Because I’m fucking sick of this guy. I don’t just want to block him because that’s the equivalent of sticking my head in the sand to not see his fuckery.

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      I’m going to block beep, but they should 100% be banned for being a worthless piece of shit.

    • Beep@lemmus.orgOP
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      Counter counter proposal: ban anyone who use this community to post ads.

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        hey have you considered changing your handle to ▇▇@▇▇▇▇.org, to stop watermarking your comments? cuz right now, seeing your name, i feel advertised to tbh

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          You can change the settings of your client to not show usernames and instead show only the name of the community the post is posted in.

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        Sure. But posting the artist’s name/watermark isn’t an ad, it’s their artwork.

        Ban posters who modify artist’s work maliciously to remove attribution.

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    OP, do you have some kind of humiliation fetish or why is your take this shit?

    Do you think that a painter’s signature on a painting is an ad? If I listen to music and the artist states their name, is that an ad? All of these are just a way of saying “I made this”. They aren’t ads in any meaningful sense of the word.

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    Artist attribution ≠ Ads

    For fucks sake, why you acting like every comic comes with a red “30% off” banner?

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    yeah I remember when they gave me a contract i put my watermark on with an ad of my brand (sometimes called full name).

    idiot.

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    You are against capitalism, and your approach is to remove author attribution, thus fucking small creators. That’s called punching down, and for being so against capitalism, you operate like a good dog.

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    You recommend linking to the source instead of a signature, but you don’t include either in your posts. When someone makes something, they have a right to have people know they are the ones who made it. You should be banned from every community you refuse to credit artists in. You are actively harming this community.

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    If I enjoy a creator, I want to see more of their work.

    With people like you, I would have no idea who Neil Kohney even is.

    Fuck you in particular.

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    Maybe you should abide by the two posts per person per day rule before you start trying to create new ones.

    But do go on and tell everyone how an artist having their name and/or their webcomic’s name included in the image is an advertisement.

    Especially when it’s damn obvious that you’re using AI to remove the attribution when you can’t just crop it out. Not just a weasel, but a lazy one at that.

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      As I said, why it doesn’t exist in music and art then?

      • They do…?

        Signatures and watermarks are in almost all works of art.

        A watermark on a piece of recorded music is something that is part of the digital composition. It can be in the metadata, it could be in the waveform itself. You’d only see it through analysis of the file.

        Same can, and often is, done with video. Even code for software.

        A good watermark is one that isn’t obvious, so it can’t be removed or tampered with.

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          You made a good point… For my argument!

          Music don’t contain watermarks that ruin the experience in the work itself.

          It’s available in text attribution/ metadata base.

          Leave the experience alone out of the attribution.

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            Music don’t contain watermarks that ruin the experience in the work itself.

            They do, and I find it a lot more obnoxious than a label in the borders on an image

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Producer_tag

            It’s available in text attribution/ metadata base.

            When I download a song, the file comes with the metadata. When I download an image, the creator information is not there. When images are shared, it’s very often the image alone and not a link to the page with the image.

            Also artists have been leaving a signature on their art for as long as we’ve had art. All people are asking is that you share the art as it was created instead of modifying each piece before you share it. By doing that, you’re deciding for other people what is best.

            This honestly feels like a good opportunity for you to make a separate community and post your edits there so that the people who prefer that format can subscribe to it.

          • If you’re bothered by the creator putting their signature in the margins, where it covers nothing, that’s entitely a YOU problem. And since you constantly crop the signature off your posts, I find your engagement here to be in bad faith. Credit the creators and quit being a mook.

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        .>

        <.<

        Stop calling out my laziness to open krita…

        I actually put credits on my comics as I actually need to edit them

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    While we could enforce the rule of link being the attribution, as a general rule it’s not what will happen when someone shares anything on the Internet. It will be ripped out of context and posted on random places with zero attribution.

    Exhibit A: yourself. Your post history does only occasionally contain links.

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      I avoid it because a lot of times the source is Reddit or Instagram.

      But if the rule enforced, I would attribute back everything. Because it became agreed upon this compromise basically.

      In short, I would link back even if to Reddit. But we need to have a standard here to kick ads out before I do that.