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  • But with AI? I don’t know, I don’t see any stop sign … Maybe that it never reaches this high mark we all expect?

    I personally think that’s the most likely outcome. Most of the advances lately rely on effectively “brute forcing” the problem space by shoving more training data in and by using more resources to calculate weights. There are minor improvements here and there by combining approaches, but development of new techniques has largely slowed to a crawl.

    There’s also still no clear path for any of this tech to make the massive leap from “trained for a purpose” to generalized knowledge, which is the most pointed to “selling point” for the whole idea.

    And all of that is ignoring the fact that OpenAI, the biggest name in the space, operates at a considerable loss. They only still exist because Microsoft can afford to burn the equivalent of a small country’s GDP on the small chance they get to be an industry leader on this. The resource, money, and energy investment for the current results are so absurdly mismatched that unless something huge manages to shake things up, I have a very hard time seeing it ever reach the heights the hype machine has been prophecizing.

    Machine Learning is amazing, has been improving all sorts of things for multiple decades, and will continue to do so long after this current overhyped idea of AI fades away. The current glorified chat bots, generative AI stuff? I think we’re already well past the point of reasonable ROI in terms of resources.


  • Depends on my relationship to the person, how comfortable I feel with them knowing, and if it’s in any way relevant to any conversation/goings on. If it’s not contextually relevant, I’m not going to bring it up out of nowhere.

    And it would probably change significantly if I had different “conditions” than what I do have. Stuff with more negative connotations? I’d probably be more tight lipped.

    I have ADHD, am medicated for (but not formally diagnosed with) anxiety and depression, and a retired autism spectrum diagnostician that I lived with for a few months was certain I fell somewhere on the spectrum.

    I’m comfortable saying this shit online because I don’t know you, and my real identity isn’t tied to this online one. It’s relevant to this conversation too.


    IRL:

    I’m not shy about the ADHD, except in professional situations. Thay said, my boss and a handful of my coworkers know of it, because at least in my workplace and team there isn’t a stigma around it. I also work in tech, and I can pretty much guarantee that the majority of the team I’m on has some form of neurodivergence. I’m also medicated, with my symptoms fairly controlled, so it’s more used as a deprecating joke about why I document the ever living shit out of everything: “If I don’t write this down, I won’t remember this when I get back from lunch. One sec. Good ol ADHD brain.” My team members also know that I’m not the type to just joke about shit like that. Not someone who goes “lol, I’m so ADHD!”

    Beyond that, friends and family know about the depression. Mostly because they were around when it was at the worst, or as I was getting myself back together, but it’s not like I’m ashamed of it or anything. Again, I’m medicated and symptoms are largely under control. If I’m talking about the time in my life that it flared up, I don’t mince words. “Yeah, I went through some years of pretty intense depression. I feel like I had legitimate reasons to feel some of what I did, but I’m glad to be out from it.” Not something I share in the workplace.

    My parents and wife know of the anxiety. The anxiety probably shows without me broadcasting it (when it would be relevant). So I don’t talk about that one.

    My wife is the only one who knows the potential spectrum-ness, and whatever spectrum-ness I have is relatively minor. Don’t really have reason to bring it up. So it doesn’t leave the two of us.


    I guess my thinking is this:

    I’m not asking other people to bear the burden of working around my idiosyncracies. I do my best to handle them as my own problems to work through. Occasionally with the help of a close friend that is willing/able to help, but normally just my wife if I absolutely need someone else helping or as a sounding board.

    Most of my symptoms are tamped down to a point that I’m just odd, not a problem to be handled or worked around. I’m not ashamed of who I am, and I know who I am. But it’s also not really anyone else’s business but my own. I’ll share if it’s relevant because I’m not ashamed, but I’m not vomiting about my personal brand of weird to people I’ve just met.

    The one person who has to deal with the rare instances of “my idiosyncracies are now a problem” is aware of things fully. That’s my wife. And I do what I can day after day to reduce those occasions from ever happening. Slow, constant movement towards better control and understanding of myself. Step by sometimes slow as hell fucking step.


  • The information is accurate. Your interpretation of my wording is so off and away from the rest of the conversation it’s hardly worth engaging with.

    This isn’t debate club, a news room, or some scientific paper. You don’t “win” anything by trying to pick apart minor word choice.

    I have an incredibly hard time believing you truly misunderstood the intended meaning and weren’t just excited to score what you thought was some sort of easy dunk.


    In the past, the type of jobs that older generations tend to categorize as “dead end jobs meant for students” had a significant chunk of their workforce made up of students. The stereotype didn’t coalesce out of nowhere spontaneously and entirely out of the imagination of privileged assholes.


    Feel free to keep on this track if you feel the need, but I’m done.




  • If you contribute 40 hours of labor to the country’s GDP, you should expect to be able to have shelter, food and medical care. That’s not asking a lot.

    That’s 1000% true, but that doesn’t change the fact that there are jobs you can do from walking in off the street with an hour or two of training, and there are jobs that you need more training/background/skills to do.

    All full time work should provide enough for a basic standard of living. But arguing that there isn’t a difference in required skill between stocking shelves in an Amazon warehouse and say, diagnosing and treating cancer is absurd.

    That’s going to significantly undermine your argument with a lot of people.


    As far as your parents go, historically a lot of those jobs were populated primarily by high school students or people trying to make some side cash, and it wasn’t as hard to find employment in a more stable “career” job. The economy worked in a way where having dead end “starter” jobs still “worked”.

    They just probably aren’t as aware of the fact that more and more people are getting stuck in those jobs due to no fault of their own. The idea is truly and utterly alien to them if they haven’t had to navigate job hunting since they started their “career” job.

    The idea that people who didn’t make poor life choices are trying to survive off working at McDonalds doesn’t mesh with their understanding of how the world works. The idea that someone working at Walmart full time can’t afford to live without government assistance doesn’t seem real.

    The last time they had to directly deal with that sort of stuff, no one was trying to survive that way because you could much more easily move to a job you could survive on if you just put in a small amount of effort. It might have been another shitty job, but options were there if you just looked. Not too long ago you could survive off Walmart.

    All you can really do is to keep insisting that times have changed. Jobs aren’t just waiting for someone to ask to speak to the manager, and pay has not kept pace with costs of stuff increasing.

    Trying to argue that a fry cook deserves to be paid as much as a skilled position will always be a non-starter.




  • So… you’ve quoted that both Gen X and Gen Z voted more for Trump than last time. Perhaps the issue isn’t specific generations, but a larger turn out for Trump across most demographics?

    Or you can always keep looking for reasons to get upset at strangers you don’t know for demographics they belong to that they can’t control. Very bold. We’ll have to see what the crowd thinks when it hits the fashion runway in Paris.



  • You must have a very different experience with social media if you are seriously able to say that with a straight face.

    Most moderators use those criteria exactly the same way I have, and many other sites and communities restrict posting privileges on new accounts as an effective measure to curtail spam and astroturfing. The only reason that isn’t being used on Lemmy is a lack of moderator tools to do it.

    Additionally, shitpost is not some catch all category. Traditionally shitposts are intentionally false, misleading, or low quality posts done for the sake of humor or to try and elicit an emotional response from others (see: trolling). But fair enough, this particular comm has been becoming a catch all lately.

    EDIT: Maybe a better place for this sort of thing would have been !casualconversation@lemm.ee


    Anyway. You want to look more natural? Go participate in other comms. Make comments on a wide variety of topics, not just about the latest social media site that’s clamoring to profit off the current situation.

    Until then your response amounts to little more than an indignant “nuh uh!” with nothing behind it.







  • Going out on a limb here that you’re either young, or some flavor of “nuero-spicy” (I think that’s the hip new term people are using lately).

    It’s almost always used rhetorically. To a degree that I could count the number of times I’ve heard it used otherwise in my over 30 years of life on one hand.

    The way to respond to it depends on the conversation, but generally it’s your cue to change the subject, or drop the topic they were referring to. Unless you want to start an argument or make things awkward.

    You’re also missing some other important “rhetorical” or at least non-literal uses:

    • “You’re over thinking this”
    • “So few people care about this that it isn’t worth discussing (at least right now or in this context)”
    • “That isn’t relevant”

    I’m sure I’m missing some other uses myself.

    The only way to determine which it’s being used as is through context clues, tone, body language, facial expressions, etc. Welcome to the annoying as hell wonderful world of navigating conversations with people that don’t directly say what they mean.

    It gets easier over time with experience, same as any other skill. It’s just a harder skill for some of us to build than it is for others… same as any other skill.



  • Yup. Regulatory and audit requirements are a motherfucker.

    Also, I don’t mean to speak down to devs, but as a rule of thumb you tend to think far higher of your skills just because you know the building blocks. Being able to build a boat doesn’t mean you know how to sail.

    I know multiple people who are prodigous developers but know jack shit about basic computer usage and security. People who had to be guided to the control panel in Windows. Yes, even after they added the search bar. People hired to work in an exclusively Windows enterprise environment.

    Now add that amount of potential that lack of basic operational skill carries for fucking things up to the least competent (or at minimum the least careful) co-worker on your dev team.

    You (any dev reading this) as an individual would probably never fuck up that badly. You (any dev reading this) would probably do everything right, correct, and wouldn’t cause problems with root. But the rules aren’t written to protect against the competent, or against people never making mistakes.