Yeah, that is pretty much how it goes. Some nice person shares a piece of AI art they find interesting and the AntiAI bros bully them nonstop and proceed to word vomit their nonsense for the next 3 years all over every site even when it isn’t relevant.
Yes, my brain was trained on many sources and that was the reply that was generated. Now you are getting the hang of how AI works. Congrats. Take your new knowledge and go do great things in the world.
Machine learning is a net positive for technology and society, IF used wisely. The people who consume art are distressed that they can no longer filter for AI. AI images would be less controversial if we didn’t have so much of it masquerading as human art.
This technology is not the issue, it’s how people use it to the detriment of society and the environment.
Odd that there’s so much hate for the image generation. I hate AI, but not for the images. I have an image generator myself and it’s funny as hell. I hate AI for ruining the internet. After August of 2023, every search engine became borderline useless, and every “informative” website became auto generated dogshit.
Image generation is often done remotely, using massive amounts of energy and water cooling. I enjoy the funny images as well, but I don’t like the massive volume of AI images that make it tougher to find human artists.
Those things cost money. If it’s truly “massive amounts” then why are so many image generators giving it away for free?
I generate images locally on my home computer so I actually know how much energy and cooling is required per image, it’s really not that much. I’d use way more if I was making the image by hand in an image editing program.
That’s just nonsense they made up, or they are confusing their anti-AI memes.
An image generator uses no more power than a video game. Most run on consumer graphics cards.
LLMs are the ones that use a lot of resources but “massive amounts” is a vague term that has no useful meaning. No matter how you try to refute their statement, they can always just declare that they mean something else.
Generating the image does not take much power, though training them does; I should have been clearer.
When I say “massive amounts,” I mean a company like Microsoft opening large data centers that require enough energy and water to disrupt local communities. Obviously this isn’t an AI issue, and Microsoft doesn’t train for image generation AFAIK, but the fact remains that training an AI model requires an order of magnitude of more resources than most consumer or corporate applications.
If AI models were only getting more efficient, I wouldn’t worry about this, but companies tend to scale up and use more resources to make larger models.
And the same calculus applies to LLMs as to the image generators. If they’re so hideously expensive how is it that companies are giving access away for free? The goodness of their own hearts? Obviously they would like for people to pay for services and are using the LLMs as a loss leader, but they’re giving away so much in the way of LLM usage that I’ve never felt any need to pay for it myself. The average Joe isn’t their target market, the average Joe doesn’t have a big enough demand to be worth charging them for it.
People love it when they find something they can bully people with and feel self righteous about it. Especially when they feel like they have a big enough gang to back them up.
True, but I’ve been noticing a trend in a positive direction over time. Look at the upvote/downvote balances, it’s still a net negative whenever you say something good about AI but there are a lot more upvotes than there used to be.
I think the anti-AI rage is dying down. People are exhausted by it, and more and more people are actually trying out AI tools and finding them to be fun and useful. And the Fediverse is getting bigger, too, which dilutes the bubble with more competing views.
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Yeah, that is pretty much how it goes. Some nice person shares a piece of AI art they find interesting and the AntiAI bros bully them nonstop and proceed to word vomit their nonsense for the next 3 years all over every site even when it isn’t relevant.
What’s it like not being creative? Must suck.
You’d know.
Even your reply was AI generated from stolen replies. Amazing!
Yes, my brain was trained on many sources and that was the reply that was generated. Now you are getting the hang of how AI works. Congrats. Take your new knowledge and go do great things in the world.
Machine learning is a net positive for technology and society, IF used wisely. The people who consume art are distressed that they can no longer filter for AI. AI images would be less controversial if we didn’t have so much of it masquerading as human art.
This technology is not the issue, it’s how people use it to the detriment of society and the environment.
I am not convinced this is even an actual problem, just what people are worried about happening.
It’s like any other meme. Being grounded in actual reality isn’t important.
It’s just people repeating and remixing a category of content and confusing their outrage for a reasoned opinion.
Don’t I know it xD got down voted to hell for saying maybe there are some innocent people who live in Israel too.
Odd that there’s so much hate for the image generation. I hate AI, but not for the images. I have an image generator myself and it’s funny as hell. I hate AI for ruining the internet. After August of 2023, every search engine became borderline useless, and every “informative” website became auto generated dogshit.
Image generation is often done remotely, using massive amounts of energy and water cooling. I enjoy the funny images as well, but I don’t like the massive volume of AI images that make it tougher to find human artists.
Those things cost money. If it’s truly “massive amounts” then why are so many image generators giving it away for free?
I generate images locally on my home computer so I actually know how much energy and cooling is required per image, it’s really not that much. I’d use way more if I was making the image by hand in an image editing program.
That’s just nonsense they made up, or they are confusing their anti-AI memes.
An image generator uses no more power than a video game. Most run on consumer graphics cards.
LLMs are the ones that use a lot of resources but “massive amounts” is a vague term that has no useful meaning. No matter how you try to refute their statement, they can always just declare that they mean something else.
Generating the image does not take much power, though training them does; I should have been clearer.
When I say “massive amounts,” I mean a company like Microsoft opening large data centers that require enough energy and water to disrupt local communities. Obviously this isn’t an AI issue, and Microsoft doesn’t train for image generation AFAIK, but the fact remains that training an AI model requires an order of magnitude of more resources than most consumer or corporate applications.
If AI models were only getting more efficient, I wouldn’t worry about this, but companies tend to scale up and use more resources to make larger models.
And the same calculus applies to LLMs as to the image generators. If they’re so hideously expensive how is it that companies are giving access away for free? The goodness of their own hearts? Obviously they would like for people to pay for services and are using the LLMs as a loss leader, but they’re giving away so much in the way of LLM usage that I’ve never felt any need to pay for it myself. The average Joe isn’t their target market, the average Joe doesn’t have a big enough demand to be worth charging them for it.
You’re still on Lemmy, so you get downvoted for any semblance of approving technological advancements if it includes the wrong 2 letters
Careful now, Lemmy is the most anti AI echo chamber there is
People love it when they find something they can bully people with and feel self righteous about it. Especially when they feel like they have a big enough gang to back them up.
Linux and windows. Another topic to avoid unless you instantly want it derailed.
Funny how they are totally fine with using tools like Autofill with photoshop though. The hypocrisy is what’s the funniest.
True, but I’ve been noticing a trend in a positive direction over time. Look at the upvote/downvote balances, it’s still a net negative whenever you say something good about AI but there are a lot more upvotes than there used to be.
I think the anti-AI rage is dying down. People are exhausted by it, and more and more people are actually trying out AI tools and finding them to be fun and useful. And the Fediverse is getting bigger, too, which dilutes the bubble with more competing views.
Sure but then you have the anti-AntiAI bro replyguy bully bros in the comments, which imo is the real tragedy