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LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

If a criminal gets a life sentence in prison, then they die, then they come back to life, is their life sentence fulfilled and they can be released from prison?

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If a criminal gets a life sentence in prison, then they die, then they come back to life, is their life sentence fulfilled and they can be released from prison?

LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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  • 0110010001100010@lemmy.world
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    Nope: https://www.joe.co.uk/news/prisoner-who-died-and-was-brought-back-to-life-argued-his-life-sentence-had-technically-finished-394879

    • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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      This is actually fucking scary.

      They also took issue with him being brought back to life as he’d signed a ‘Do Not Resuscitate’ order years earlier, The Des Moines Register reported at the time.

      This sets the precedent that the convict is no longer in possession of their own body and life.

      “Death is no escape. You will suffer as long as we want you to.”

      Welcome to the birth of Hell.

      • mateomaui@reddthat.com
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        I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that is something signed by choice, saying that the prisoner doesn’t want to be resuscitated if they die. I don’t think that is forced on them, but again, I could be wrong.

        edit: nvm, I get what you’re saying now

      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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        Well

        Benjamin Schreiber was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in 1996, after clubbing a man to death with the handle of a pickaxe and leaving his body outside a trailer. Schreiber had conspired with the man’s girlfriend to murder him.

        I’d be more scared with him free

      • AlexanderESmith@kbin.social
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        @luthis

        I mean…;

        Benjamin Schreiber was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in 1996, after clubbing a man to death with the handle of a pickaxe and leaving his body outside a trailer. Schreiber had conspired with the man’s girlfriend to murder him.

        He took away someone else’s body and life first.

        • Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
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          Thats the problem with just laws and rights. They have to apply to everyone, even those we feel don’t deserve it, otherwise they ain’t just.

          • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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            Laws and rights did apply to him.

            • Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
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              Except they didn’t if he signed a “do not resuscitate” and they did it anyways.

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          Are you saying we shouldn’t try to be better than him?

  • NaN@lemmy.sdf.org
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    People have tried the argument when they were resuscitated. The courts have thrown it out, as the sentence is meant to be their entire lifetime regardless of medical interventions that may artificially extend it. If someone is capable of making the argument, they have not fulfilled their sentence. Also, I think generally if you can be brought back you were not actually dead, you were near death and would have died if not for intervention (one might say only mostly dead and not dead dead).

    It would take very poorly written laws that somehow define life to only include a single period of an uninterrupted heartbeat to allow it to work.

    If and when somebody is resurrected after three days, the courts might be forced to reconsider.

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      only mostly dead and not dead dead

      Nice reference, bro. That was the second movie I ever bought, on VHS.

    • CarrotsHaveEars@lemmy.ml
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      Well said. If we ever have the medical advancement of bringing back three-day corpses, we can brainwash the criminals to be good people instead.

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    I think there are few historical examples where someone was hanged and pronounced dead but then woke up and were pardoned.

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      There is one from Edinburgh, A woman who was hung but survived.

      Half-Hangit’ Maggie

    • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.worldOP
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      That’s tragic and really weird

    • ⲇⲅⲇ@lemmy.ml
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      But we are talking about sentenced to prison, not sentenced to death.

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    No offense, but I feel like a lot of posts on c/asklemmy would be better suited to c/nostupidquestions

    • Sensitivezombie@lemmy.zip
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      And many other niche communities

  • wantd2B1ofthestrokes@discuss.tchncs.de
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    This is what Jon Snow did. Obviously real life works the same way

    • MisterChief@lemmy.world
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      And now my watch has ended.

      • ExLisper@linux.community
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        You finished watching GOT just now?

  • ⲇⲅⲇ@lemmy.ml
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    “life sentence in prison” means he is sentenced for life, so if he gets alive again he would be still with that sentence that is for life. It’s not a “sentence until death”.

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    I don’t think that the law is ready to deal with zombies and other non realistic scenario

    • BillyTheSkidMark@lemm.ee
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      I mean… You can be clinically dead and then revived with cpr and a defibrillator, so not entirely unrealistic.

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    If he dies for long enough to complete all the paper work and produce death certeficate then he would be free

    • Otter@lemmy.ca
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      Unfortunately the person would not have any papers after, and trying to get papers may send them back to prison

  • ExLisper@linux.community
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    I think so. I read about a guy who stayed dead for couple of years for tax reasons.

    (If you get the reference you’ll get a high five)

    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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      Hey I knew that guy. Used to hang out with Zaphod.

      • ExLisper@linux.community
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        High five!

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    no. they arent legally dead until they are

  • SonicBlue03@sh.itjust.works
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    I believe they come back to “life in prison” .

  • Colonel Sanders@lemmy.world
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    Not sure how it is in other countries, but I always assumed that a “life” sentence at least in the US just meant anything over 25 years

    • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.worldOP
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      I think in USA life sentence means until death 🤷🏻‍♀️

      • answersplease77@lemmy.world
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        Not in every state, and many get life sentence with parole chance after X years.

    • ExLisper@linux.community
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      In civilised counties it means indefinite, 20 years minimum and after that reviewed every couple of years. In some countries 25 years is the maximum mandatory sentence you can get, the next level is life.

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    At least in Canada a “life” sentence is just a really long amount of time. I think 21 years?

    EDIT: Looked into it. It’s indefinite, only getting a chance to appeal after 25 years.

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    There was this case in south africa where a prisoner was revived multiple times.

    https://www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/breaking-prisoner-benjamin-schreiber-died-brought-back-to-life-life-sentence-is-finished-15-may-2023/

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