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Yeah because there hasn’t been a bunch of asset flip slop before. All it’s changed is that they have new tools to make it but there was always crappy stuff on Steam

Are algorithms the same as AI?

I mean that’s exactly how it’s always worked. What’s the difference just because the AI exists

Okay great so I’ll use AI to develop every aspect of my game and then just not declare it. After all, there’s no enforcement so why wouldn’t I do that?

The problem is the tag has literally no reason to exist, no one would admit to using AI even if they did so what the bloody hell was the point?

It’s like you didn’t even bother to read the Wikipedia article because it explains exactly why this sort of thing doesn’t work

Hence the problem

The problem is you end up with the tag nonetheless.

The description doesn’t apply to the label, no matter how much explanation you provide you’re still going to devalue your game with the AI label so why would any developer admit to that?

The whole thing is just mind numbingly stupid.

Whoever thought this up needs to get out more and actually experience the human condition.

That’s their fault. They decided on ambiguous definition of AI.

Does it as far as I can tell if you have the tag you have the tag. There’s no description next to it that says this guy used AI but only for irrelevant background stuff

Because I don’t think anybody actually cares that much if you use small pieces of AI code. What people don’t want is everything being AI produced.

Right now though the AI tag is been applied to both scenarios with no distinction.

Okay so there is this whole arguement going on about The Altars how apparently a tiny piece of background art has AI generated text in it. Personally I feel that’s absolutely fine, as otherwise it would have just been Lorem Ipsum, and really doesn’t need to be declared but technically, under the strictest interpretation of that tag, it should be declared even though you can’t even see it unless you zoom in.

I would very much like valved actually come up with a concrete policy rather than a vague one-line statement.

Did PayPal actually make valve remove them or did PayPal just say they didn’t want to provide payment processors for them and valve couldn’t be bothered to come up with a solution?

I can’t see why Paypal would care one way or the other if the games were available on the platform as long as PayPal don’t have to process the payment.

And what about all the people who don’t live in Alabama trailer parks? Or they’re just so many of them that they provide an industry all on their own.

Well that’s the problem isn’t it it depends entirely on what the AI is being used for. The truth is we don’t know because Steam doesn’t tell us.

The way that valves AI tag works is kind of a problem.

There is no subtlety to it at all, if you use AI in any capacity during the development of the game you need to declare it via that tag yet all the tag then does is say “AI in this game”, but there’s a big difference between having the AI develop the entire story or produce all of the artwork, and having AI write boilerplate camera controls for a farming simulator.

You get that hacking isn’t magic right. In order to “hack it” the files actually have to be available on the public network. If they’re just on an internal file system you would have to be on site to get access.

A single atom of gold is far too small for any photon in the visible spectrum to interact with.

A single atom of gold is 0.2 nanometres (a nanometre is an incredibly small thing and a gold atom isn’t even half of 1% of that), meanwhile the wavelength of blue light (The smallest wavelength of visible light) is a hulking 380 nanometres. No matter how much you zoom in you would never see anything a single atom is just too small to interact with light.

Oh good, I was starting to distrust my French.

Why? We don’t need the service to be popular. That’s the great thing about it being decentralised, it kind of doesn’t matter.

Also we don’t want a bunch of French people on here, speaking their strange heathen lingo.

Sir, may I recommend the Volkswagen, this model it has greater surface area.

He hasn’t got a licence plate so clearly he’s now on trackable.