Typical conservative reply: it’s your fault you’re offended that I was an asshole.

Like a poisonous wet sock.

Authoritarian states offering socialism for the masses never works.

Nobody does real socialism.

Social policy does work.

Probably (a big guess) is because google is interested in monetization, and getting the best payout for themselves and their advertisers they can contractually manage. You’re gonna get what google makes the most money off of before you get what you actually want to see. Just like google search.

Tiktok appears to be far more interested in making you stay on the platform and keeping your attention. They get what they want by making you an addict, for lack of a better term.

Nobody said it was a legal framework. I am applying the paradox to how we should frame it legally.

The rest of your argument was already covered in my post.

“While an intolerant sect does not itself have title to complain of intolerance, its freedom should be restricted only when the tolerant sincerely and with reason believe that their own security and that of the institutions of liberty are in danger.”

This is the entire thrust of the argument I am making. My position is that you cannot tolerate extremes that pose a legitimate threat as posited by the quote you selected.

You are arguing that freedom of speech should be tolerated as long as possible. I already clearly stated that.

I don’t know why you felt the need to reiterate what I said.

Seems like you got the idea.

That’s not what I said.

ITT: there is evil in all of us.

You cannot apply the paradox of tolerance without understanding the outcome. If you tolerate everything, the extreme takes over. You are also making it an either:or choice - don’t censor vs lose control of all free speech.

This is false, and stems from the assumption that there is a victory only one way or the other.

There is no victory in any form of governance seeking to hold a middle ground for any aspect of society. You don’t get to set up some rules, dust off your hands, say “That should do it…” and think you’re done.

It is a constant battle that must be fought every single time an issue becomes a problem. No, not all speech is acceptable. But we should also aggressively protect the speech that is acceptable even if we don’t like it. If we can’t do that, then we’ve lost for different reasons.

Political speech can involve hate.

Political disagreement, or any other disagreement that does not involve hate and harm should not be in question.

You’re welcome to hate Biden or Trump. You’re not welcome to threaten to kill your political opponent’s supporters.

Yeah, I’d tend to agree. The war is digital and economic. Countries are hacking each other’s infrastructure and commercial systems, mass propaganda and spying with troll farms, tiktok and even hardware. Plenty of fighting with sanctions, tariffs, bans of sales of technology.

Fighting for land right now is really unnecessary, however depending on how well humanity survives climate change I’d expect to see some arguments going in to drilling and mining places like Greenland, the arctic and antarctic. China is already setting up shop in Antarctica.

We are also all tied together economically in so many different ways that a war between major powers would be economically devastating for everyone before the first shot is fired, particularly for the countries that ceded most of their production to other countries that might be hostile in war.

We’re still being forgotten.

The boomers held on to power for such a long time that X never really got a generational chance to change things or sit in the driver’s seat. They were left waiting in the wings for their turn. The millennials were pretty pissed off for a lot of reasons and made a lot of noise, so they overshadowed X, and they’ve been maneuvering for their opportunities in the driver’s seat.

So basically X got mostly left out. Doesn’t mean we couldn’t fuck things up, though. We were the biggest trump voters by generation.

Fold it in half end to end, not down the middle.

Anyone who doesn’t think they should get a decent wage.

God of Toilet Paper.

You might laugh, but I would own the world.

If you were in my favor, you would get the softest, never-chafing, cleanest single-wipe-clean TP ever. No matter what you ate, no matter how spicy, no matter how ill, you could be assured of pain-free, cooling, soothing, wipes. It would be beautiful. Rainbows and peace, no matter how violent the shit

Piss me off? Anything you choose to clean your backside with is then designated TP. I will clog all the toilets, all the plumbing, all the sewers. I can make it all gympie-gympie leaves, sandpaper, wax paper, or just vanish mid-wipe. No matter how much you wiped your already raw ass, there would still be more. I would be a scourge on the Earth, and all would have to bow down before me. You would love me. You would hate me.

He who controls the comfort of the sphincter, controls the world.

Could be worse. Highly nutritious foodstuff providing plenty of vitamins, protein, and fiber. I could do a lot to alleviate some world hunger immediately. Making people fart all over the world would be fun, too.

I could also put beans in the no-bean-chili gatekeepers chili. Evil bean god could be fun, too.

Powers of a deity.

Got a beaded curtain in the doorway, too?

It’s easier to be kind and let things go that don’t work out than it is to be an asshole with sociopathic tendencies that everyone remembers.