Apparently this is an unpopular opinion among feminists. If feminism is about equality for everyone, it needs to address that. As an example, LGBTQ+ was extended many times to cover everyone in the community, and that’s the right thing to do. There isn’t just L and everyone repeats “Oh! Lesbians are for rights for everyone, no need to update that”

I don’t know what the new name should be, but it should cover gender equality for everyone.

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    Are the people downvoting me because I have been crass or crude in some way?

    Have I missed some fundamental concept that would have caused a different outcome?

    My statement is I want to zero out the debt and start over as a society with men and women being completely and totally equal in every way.

    No past debts lingering overhead, a blank slate, a fresh start, a new us.

    Why would anyone be against that?

    I, as a man, have the capacity to apologize. Women, as women, have the capacity to forgive.

    Why are we not making this happen somehow, some way?

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      My statement is I want to zero out the debt and start over as a society with men and women being completely and totally equal in every way.

      No past debts lingering overhead, a blank slate, a fresh start, a new us.

      Why would anyone be against that?

      probably the “making them A class citizens and men B class citizens” part, that’s not very cash money, blank slate, fresh start. Certainly not “No past debts lingering,” so the downvotes are probably a combination of your cognitive dissonance and smug attitude about fixing oppression with more oppression.

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        There’s nothing about my attitude that smug. I’m saying that if there was a clear accounting of the total amount of damage is done by men to women, we should pay that debt off.

        Like, please assume that I am collaborating in the conversation and that I’m looking to build something positive and not that I’m just trying to, like, one up or get up votes or anything else. I am contributing my viewpoint to the conversation. That’s it.

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            Yeah, and you said I was smug about it, when there is no sense of smugness coming from me, which implies that you misread my intentions, so I clarified.

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              which implies that you misread my intentions

              Or perhaps you’re not presenting as you intend

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          There’s nothing about my attitude that smug.

          Smuggest shit I’ve ever read.