• ter_maxima@jlai.lu
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      8 hours ago

      Bold of you to assume I am American, did you not check the instance I am from ?

      Yes, there are many lies about China, but don’t get stuck in second opinion syndrome. China is both worse and better than you know.

      The fact the government lies about China, while China is still bad behind the scenes, can both be true. During the cold war, both sides accused the other of being evil, and both were right.

      Don’t let anyone who puts a “communist” sticker on their own forehead fool you into supporting them.

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        The fact the government lies about China, while China is still bad behind the scenes, can both be true.

        This is just vague-posting unless you actually link some credible china-bad studies that aren’t sourced from British or US state media.

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          Something like a one-party political system with dear respected leader, concentration camps, surveillance, social rating system, GFW?

          Note how I don’t say anything about propaganda from every crack. That’s because western propaganda has successfully evolved in the conditions of outright censorship not being allowed. Like killing cockroaches in a building again and again you make them evolve for the poisons used in the past.

          If you are going to pick the “all this is not credible” line, then don’t bother. Also credible is a synonym for “believable”, and nobody can make you believe things you don’t want to believe.

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            Can you name a single piece of anti-China propaganda from the West that you don’t accept unquestioningly?

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      This is why people won’t support lemmy lmao.

      You know there are other sources for China’s ills than American news media right?

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        There isn’t a single piece of anti-China propaganda from the West that you don’t believe without question.

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        8 hours ago

        And those are?

        Seriously, link these without sourcing Zenz or another US or British state media source.

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        I know domestic media that parrots American news media. I’ve seen them rail against experts of my own country when suggesting otherwirse.