Trying to see if we’re all on the same page. Thanks

  • Rothe@piefed.social
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    5 days ago

    It is a derogatory term invented by fascists, and is used by them for anything they disapprove of.

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        4 days ago

        It is a term as old as language with all sorts of different meanings, but the specific modern meaning used in modern media was definitely invented by them.

        You have unfortunately just fallen prey to their propaganda and revisionist history about the usage of the term if you believe otherwise.

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          4 days ago

          i remember there being some twitter trend around it, kind of like the “me too” movement too. I think that is what started the current usage of the word.

          Also, why would they invent such a word and not some more derogatory one? “Woke” has quite positive spin, being aware and stuff. The reason they use it as negative word is because its against everything they believe in. Woke people are literally a threat to them because they want to keep hating and abusing others. They want to keep doing the shit they are doing and anyone no indifferent to it is a problem.

          saying they invented it is more akin to propaganda and revisionist history to me because it takes something away from the word, makes it lesser.

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            4 days ago

            I remember there being some twitter trend around it, kind of like the “me too” movement too

            No you don’t, that is exactly what I am talking about. You are remembering the right wing press explaining this term to you and accepting their explaination.

            Also, why would they invent such a word and not some more derogatory one?

            You are talking about fascists who spun “social justice warrior” as a negative term. Who the fuck is against social justice? Social justice is a good thing. Fascists, that’s who. And who on the left labelled themselves “social justice warriors”, noone, because it was a term invented by the fascists, despite its literal meaning.

            saying they invented it is more akin to propaganda and revisionist history to me because it takes something away from the word

            Who cares if somebody takes something from the word. Stop using it. It is not important. It means nothing, it is a Grundbegriff to use the language of Koselleck. It means everything and nothing, it is a term which has been used for so many things that anybody can claim anything about its meaning. It is literally meaningless… Use your own language, stand up to the fascists and find your own words for things, instead of mindlessly accepting their nonsense.

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              3 days ago

              look, i live in country with fortuitous lack of facists. or at least ones we have seem to keep mostly to themselves. I have never read anything regarding this from press or other source so that memory is pretty much only thing i have on the matter. it was black lives matter during ferguson protests that started using it, according to wikipedia.

              though i kind of agree that on this point its quite pointless word to use beyond shitty people self-identifying themselves by raving how woke everything is.