Here’s the process as I understand it (please correct my errors):

  1. USA likes Israel, a lot for some reason
  2. “Israel” attacks Iran. This whole thing is being done with the USA’s airplanes though.
  • Why does the USA love Israel so much?
  • What’s the logic here? Not just the conspiracy. But why now? Why at all? Is Israel gaining something that I’m not seeing? Destabilization the main goal? What’s the USA gaining here?
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    Because Trump is a compromat, and he is scared of Putin, and Putin wanted higher oil prices.
    Trump probably now hopes that a war will help his popularity. And at the same time he scores points with Israel, that is a major political influence in USA.

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      Putin is irans ally, he certainly doesnt want it being attacked, last year he sicced his troll farms on on trump the moment iran was bombed the first time. i suspect he is formulating a plan with his troll farms to denigrate trump again.

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      Iran is one of the main supports and weapon suppliers for Russia … Putin is not happy about this.

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        Iran asked Russia for help,using the Russian S400 systems they have stationed in Syria, to help defend against Israeli missiles.
        The response from Russia, was to shut down the S400 systems, to prevent them from being a target.

        So very clearly no aid is coming from Russia, and I think part of the reason is that this is what Putin want.

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          It’s because Russia is not in a position to provide aid as they are tied up in Ukraine. They need those S400 themselves (they even asked Turkey to give back some of the ones they sold to them).

          This is the 4th time a Russian strategic partner was hit by the US (Syria, Venezuela and now Iran for the 2nd time) and Russia couldn’t do jack shit about it. It makes them look very bad and unreliable as a strategic partner, so I highly doubt Putin wants that.

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            I agree Russia is out of resources, and can’t afford to “waste” any.
            Still if Iran was still an important supplier as you claimed earlier, taking down a few Israeli missiles would go a long way to make Trump reconsider, and possibly to create more opposition in USA against the war.
            I maintain that Putin actually wants this to help the struggling Russian economy. And if Putin didn’t want it, he could have stopped Trump with a phone call.

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        So did he call Trump out? Because I haven’t heard that.
        Also the Iranian designed drones are produced locally in Russia now. And Iran has so many problems themselves already, that their help is probably limited. Also Russia is running out of money fast to buy weapons from Iran.

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          Yeah, he did. Ironically he called the assassination a "cynical violation of all norms of human morality and international law”.

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            Sorry, that was a bad example,because Putin has criticized Trump before, it’s the other way around,Trump never criticizes Putin.
            But remember Putin is KGB, and he constantly plays a game of deceit. Also to his own population.