Imagine not being able to give half of China’s reaction against J✡p✡ꑭ.
I think NATO is not even trying to win.
Material reality is stacked against NATO here. Turns out that spending decades offshoring key industries had some consequences. No amount of triumph of the will can change that.
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since you’ve obviously been living under a rock all this time, I’ll just refer you to this article in The Hill, so you can get up to speed on the whole situation https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/
You’re really a condescending prick you know that? You talk to people in person like this?
Lol, because the person they were talking to was being so humble and good faith. Shove off.
Respectfully, your own comment came across condescending, if you weren’t trolling you might wanna be more thoughtful in the future so we understand you’re being earnest
Edit: that was a different person lol. Nonetheless, that person was condescending, so they were condescending back. That’s the explanation.
I don’t make a habit of interacting with trolls like you lot in person.
Pretty sure being a condescending prick is a requirement for tankies. I’ve yet to be proven wrong
Being really mad about being called out on being ignorant is a requirement for dronies. Ive yet to be proven wrong.
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It does if you have even a bare minimum of reading comprehension. The objective of NATO was to try and break up Russia as outlined in detail in this RAND paper. The goal was to cut off Russia economically from trade and collapse its economy. That obviously didn’t happen, and now NATO finds itself in a proxy war that it lost. The goal of Russia is pretty obvious as well. It’s to remove NATO threat on its border and ideally to break up NATO. This is the goal Russia is currently accomplishing.
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NATO has always been a US project. Without the US there is no NATO, Europe can’t even produce basic stuff like explosives at this point. And if you don’t understand that the US turning on Europe is the direct outcome of the war, what else is there to say really.
Sweden and Finland were already so integrated with the western military block through the EU that them officially joining NATO is less a material change and more a symbolic formality. Not to mention that the Finnish-Russian border is an even worst path to invade Russia from Europe than the already difficult paths through Poland and Ukraine, and we know how invasions of Russia through those routes tend to go.
So it’s not the loss for Russia you think it is.
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Control of those border regions are one of Russia’s main objective in this war despite what the “RuSsA wIlL rOlL tHeIr TaNkS tO bErLiN iF tHeY aReN’t sToPeD” crowd would like you to believe. They have neither the will nor the manpower to occupy all of Ukraine.
What they want to accomplish in this war is control over the border regions, especially the Donbass and Luhansk, and prevent Ukraine from becoming a NATO member, both of which have been accomplished whether you like it or not.
when you definitely understand how wars of attrition work
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Hook me up with some of that high-potency copium, it sounds like some gourmet shit
Last I checked, it’s Europe and not Russia that’s imploding economically right now.
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I see them goal posts are moving. What is a fact however is that Russia is now world’s 4th largest economy by PPP, and world bank classifies Russia as a high income country https://www.worldbank.org/en/about/leadership/directors/eds23/brief/russia-was-classified-as-high-income-country
