Honestly given that we are a very intelligent generalist, I think it would be very hard to completely eradicate humans.

But I would agree that we could have a crazy bad collapse and have to start way over due to a much smaller habitable part of the planet and maybe that habitable area shifts around making us nomadic or something. That would probably make it a lot harder to redevelop tech. Source: https://www.open.edu/openlearn/nature-environment/environment-understanding-atmospheric-and-ocean-flows/content-section-4

Figure 18 shows that such a warm, stable period has been very unusual in the last 800 000 years, yet it is only during the Holocene that agriculture and the civilisations that rely on it have developed

I thought the California redwoods proved it was a different thing limiting height. They get water from the air because of how humid it is and therefore grow taller because their main limitation was the ability to move water from their roots to the rest of the tree.

I agree. Though I was hesitant to upvote since upvotes are public.

When it started I would’ve never guessed that SBA would take this kind of turn. I’m a huge fan.

First off, good luck getting your happy memory. Second, yo I find EMDR to be like modern magic. It’s so unintuitive on it’s surface and so obviously more effective than just talk therapy. Why should tapping on my shoulders and thinking about things in a certain way rewire my brain so much faster??

It makes much more sense after looking into it, but wow. What a cool thing to have access to in our modern world.

Ah cool

FYI usually the quotes only go on the long middle name and don’t include the first and last name.

So: Snoop “I will do anything for money” Dog.

Hmmm. Your username makes me think that that may come up now and again.

I hope it saves him

This one has great potential.

Soon.

good.store has bar shampoo and a lot of other regular house hold items that you might need regularly. Also all of the profits go to charity.

How far can we go? It feels like we are reaching a limit but I may be small minded.

You can’t overthrow capitalism if you are dehydrated. Trust me, I’ve tried.

I’ll take that as a response.

"See that’s the problem I have with this position. Knowledge is something you either have or don’t. Its something that can be kept from you. If someone can be ‘in the know’ about anarchy by studying it, that creates systems of hierarchy and power. Defining it is intellectual oppression. It becomes just another form of political domination and control. Anarchy is, in fact, just vibes. "

This is ridiculous. There is no world where everyone could have perfectly equal knowledge. That is obviously an extremely silly hill to die on, and you are doing very little by trying to squash it on a completely individual level.

Why not work with others to try to bring equality in more tangible ways? Unfortunately you’d have to learn how to effectively run a mutual aid group. Wouldn’t that put you ‘in the know’?

Oh the horrors of learning to cook huge batches of food for your community. What a terrible form of intellectual oppression. We must sit still and conver our eyes for fear of doing something wrong.

I see the take! I may just be a bit too idealist to agree fully, but obviously that world would be way better than our current one. Thanks for sharing.

Okay I’ve had an incling that you aren’t arguing in good faith but now I’m convinced enough to say something. If you don’t respond to my points about the effort it would take to realistically reduce hierarchy then I’ll be out of steam.

The libertarianism parts are a side quest. The main quest is your belief that maintaining your ignorance is important for you to be anarchist.

Hi cowbee! Hope you’re doing well. Got an anti-anarchism spiel for me? I’m not gonna debate it really, I’m just curious on your thoughts. I see an optimal society as one with as little hierarchy as possible and anarchism as the most pure philosophy on achieving that.

Here are some starting points for ya lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

I see how you could get them confused as they both are about minimizing governance. From my understanding libertarianism is more broad with it. Anarchism still tries to create an egalitarian society though while liberalism is extremely laissez faire.

The vast majority of anarchist have noticed that the world we live in is very unequal and have therefore concluded that it will take work to make a world without hierarchy. A quick look at the history books will show you that anarchist societies aren’t the most stable. Now we’ve never seen an anarchist world so it is hard to say if that would be stable, but anarchist societies embedded in hierarchical worlds are tough to sustain.

Though I’m starting to think that you have really mixed together libertarianism and anarchism into something. So note that when I say anarchism I specifically mean realistic attempts to minimize hierarchy and not pure anti government.

A lack of rules feels more like libertarianism than anarchism. Hierarchy will form if you just sit around and let it. Don’t you agree?

The IT is basically whatever egalitarian system we know we can perpetuate. Being anti hierarchy is much more complex and active than just vibing it out.