Are you sure? https://web.archive.org/web/20220216105516/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ202WNUwAAR7YS.jpg

Reading that makes me very happy! I try tell people this whenever I can: there’s hope everywhere in America, no matter how red a state is now it can become blue one day. I was a Trump supporter myself and changed, other people can too! Think about all the people in Alabama who bought that shirt. If they banded together they could change Alabama for the better. Things won’t be instant but perhaps they get a better mayor elected, then a better state representative then send someone better to the House, then one day a better Senator. If we try and work together it can happen!

When I was a Republican I saw this talking point come up a lot and sadly I used to buy into it. Basically GOPers attack RATM by claiming they are actually part of the machine and justify their argument by saying other people such as outspoken actors in Hollywood have the same politics and that they charge high ticket prices and use services such as Ticketmaster, perform at large venues and associated with Sony Music (through Epic Records).

Reflecting on this it’s not a good argument. In life things are not perfect so while they may be doing things like using Ticketmaster they are still doing a lot of good things and working towards a more fair and equitable society, perhaps one day in part due to their music motivating and encouraging people to elect more progressive people Ticketmaster will be regulated or broken up.

It’s surprising to me to see the same talking points I’m familiar with come not from the right but come from the left because you and RATM likely have a lot in common when it comes to political stances. For example I’m sure you and RATM are both against police brutality. Even if Sony manufactures RATM’s CDs isn’t it a lot better that someone has RATM playing in their car instead of whatever right wing talk show trash is playing on Clear Channel-owned stations (now called iheartmedia)?

I know right! The band didn’t start getting political until 1991.

You can be a coffee achiever
You can sit around the house and watch Leave It to Beaver
The future's up to you
So what you gonna do?
Dare to be stupid, dare to be stupid

Yes, and automatically follow JD Vance and Trump. Totally a bug /s

You must have a “local” Sinclair-owned station I’m guessing.

If you were to block Fox you should also block other more extreme channels like Newsmax and OANN.

That’s smart! Take advantage of the fact that cable keeps getting more and more expensive and urge them to cancel it. No need to sneak and block Fox News this way.

The first term wasn’t fine. Some of Trump’s “accomplishments” include raising the national debt significantly despite being part of a party that constantly claims they will deal with it, and poor actions which results in many deaths in the US during the pandemic. He also had secret conversations with Putin and may have transferred our secrets to Russia. Also he told the big lie and supported storming the capitol during J6.

Here’s a non inclusive list of some the scandals during Trump’s first term: https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/antisemitism-alphabetical-guide-trump-s-worst-moments-n1245795

The only reason his first term wasn’t even worse was because people stopped him. Now there are going to be less people to stop him. That’s why we must stay strong and vigilant and work towards getting as many Democrats elected locally in 2025 and nationally in 2026.

I totally get what you mean. If we can educate people it would be more powerful than just blocking it. But for some people maybe it’s hard to educate them. It’s for sure a complex issue.

This is fascinating to me because it might be evidence that China is promoting right wing content to undermine America. I’ve never used WeChat before but I know the app has a “news” feature. Is WeChat linking to external domains/IP addresses? I’m curious what kind of right wing propaganda are they seeing? Who is making it? Is it in English or Chinese or a combination?

If you cannot deal with the problem by network filtering and blocking these strategies might be helpful: https://old.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/wiki/index/good_posts

Also I will mention with other social media websites I’ve read about people using the not interested in this content (or similar wording) button and unfollowing right wing news sources and then following people who make positive content.

Nothing wrong with doing both. I fully support using a Pi-Hole to block right wing misinformation/disinformation if the situation is appropriate.

I should also mention in reality this is just a shitpost. In real life there is more nuance to these decisions. I have read stories about people who’s parents have been basically “gone” because of Fox News and other right wing disinformation sources and after blocking it they get their parents back usually within 6 months to a year. But it could also result in back lash. It all depends on the situation. I do feel strongly that Fox News should be blocked in hospitals and nursing homes (especially memory units) because it stresses out the patients and some of the content they run is directly contrary to a hospital’s mission.

This is a lie. People just spread this to trick you into not voting so the Republicans win.

You understand how things work! Ignore the apathy trolls. They are trying to silence your vote. Here’s what actually happens if you vote for the lesser of two evils. You’re rights are protected and next time use the primary process to pick someone even better.

It’s a fascist propaganda technique. The ene­my is both strong and weak.

For sure people think differently. I agree when having a discussion with someone it’s important to learn how they think.

I must tell you I used to be on the right, I used to support Trump actually. Part of what made me more sympathetic to immigrants is meeting some and they told me their struggles and I gained empathy for their struggles and how difficult the system is.

You’re right. I hope that maybe this could lead to a conversation about why putting people into camps is a bad idea. In my head I imagine starting a conversation with a conservative and they say why the FEMA camps are a bad idea then you could say how do you feel if you were put in one. Now ask how you’d think immigrants would feel when put in a camp. In reality things may not go how I imagine.

I totally get what you mean! They think the cruelty is the point and it will never happen to me or my family/friends so I don’t care.