Yeah, but again. I think the people that see joker was a incel ref, aren’t necessarily saying that joker is an incel, but rather that incels like joker.

I didn’t enjoy the joker movie, I don’t intend to argue about the movie but to provide my understanding of the why.

And my joker is Heath ledger, anyway.

Neither. It was a new cool trendy thing.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/delulu

I am not arguing that he is and I don’t think the people calling it a incel ref are saying that he is. I think they are saying that he is weirdly deli about a woman and is popular with a lot of incels because he is relatable for them. (Hating society is a way and kinda delulu about women)

Also I want to repeat, I might misremember stuff.

Maybe I misremember but he was kinda delulu about a woman, no?

Honestly I am somewhat confused too. I think the joker movie joker is kinda incel ref because he is kinda an incel and kinda hates women (I don’t remember the movie too well)

That seems to be the dark knight joker tho. So idk.

And honestly dark knight joker is amazing. Like I like the movie because the joker is a great villain in this movie.

I think it is a weird focus because it was irrelevant to your point, and the discussion at large. I could point out that American christians are far more likely to support trump than non-christians, but why? When we talk about the idea of the us electorate (that you chose to equate to american in your comment to the other guy. So I will say American too)

The collective in question was defined, “why do you think that about Americans?” To move the focus to white Americans is odd in that context. Imagine I would have said, “well republicans are far right”. You would have told me that we don’t talk about republicans but Americans. That I couldn’t and shouldn’t judge a collective by a subgroup. Yet that is what your focus on white Americans does in this conversation. It is not a bad observation, it is just a weird focus in this conversation.

And yes white Americans have voted trump in power, 61% of Americans identify as “white (not mixed)”. 71% of Americans identify as “white”. That is a huge part of the us electorate. If 57% (according to exit polls) of 71% of the us electorate vote for a fascist, of course, that is relevant and it should play a part in how I judge the us electorate.

But in the end of the day, all of that is more complicated than needed to answer the question, why do I believe the us electorate is far right. Trump won the popularity vote. You can break it up. But then we aren’t talking about your initial question, why do you think that about the us electorate? Instead we would talk about e.g. the white us electorate, certainly worth while exploring but not the topic at hand.

If you are unhappy with that, then don’t frame it as you do. I am answering your question precisely. Ask me a different question if you want to talk about a different topic. But don’t dismiss my answer because you don’t like it and claim that your comment didn’t focus onto white Americans and that the majority of the us electorate didn’t vote for trump while blaming white Americans (the absolute majority of the us electorate) for voting for trump.

I am sorry but the us is mostly white and fascist. That is what informs my opinion on us citizens as a collective.

Edit: you also seem very offended by the idea that I judge the us electorate based on a popular vote, saying that not everyone is that way. While happily blaming white Americans based on exit polls, ignoring that not everyone is that way. That is odd. Why can’t I judge the us electorate but you can judge the white us electorate?

If you need to pay for something, it is a huge red flag.

Weird focus on white people if it adds nothing to your point.

Not voting is certainly not an indication that they didn’t want trump and when dealing with a far right fascist, that is interesting. But we all can have some copium, so that we don’t need to accept that a shocking amount of people are dumb as rocks and that consequently they don’t quite care about stuff like due process, and don’t mind a fascist Leader.

At some point, we need to accept that currently the general public is conservative because they know the old ways and care too little to learn the new ones but get scared of change.

The majority voted for trump, a fascist. Idk.

If you tell me you are a good person, I will require evidence. If you tell me you are a bad person, I will trust your word.

I liked harry Potter. I just can’t enjoy it because of her. Her being who she is, ruins it for me.

Why would the artist or the poster be trans? If they were trans, why would it form your opinion on “trans people” and not the individual in question?

I think you are mistaken in something. You assume that his sister would let him. He 100% wants to fuck her, but he probably isn’t.

I really like that sign off.

Piss on carpet

It is kinda funny how people understand that hyperbolic and scandalous language grabs our attention, their attention gets grabbed by hyperbolic and scandalous language and then they laughing at those who used that language. You got played. They aren’t wrong as much as you didn’t understand what they are doing. An investor is rewarded for having the correct opinion but only if everyone else is wrong. They are professional liars. So they get money because they misled the public and they get money for the attention that they generated. They cashed in twice.

Personally, I do think china will face great economical challenges in the near future though. E.g. The collapse of evergrande and the consequences on the whole sector will make some waves. Let’s hope the public won’t suffer.

Before anyone wants to jump at me for shitting on china and praising the west (I did neither), I think e.g. america is a dumpster fire economically speaking and the eu is struggling at best.

If anyone is interested to share with me their opinion on a (in my opinion, a very probable) collapse of Tesla will impact the EV market, especially the Chinese market, please do!

To be fair, Tesla began production of their first cars in 2008. The pedo cave thing was 2018.

Retrospectively, there were many signs but in 2015, I don’t think the general public had their attention directed to Elon’s bs.

I understand that Tesla feels like a young company and that everything that Elon did happened super recently. But it has been 17 years. E.g. Elon has talked about self-driving cars in 2015, promising them for 2018. Elon has failed to keep his promise of self-driving for 7 years now.

I am not arguing that Elon wasn’t a weird fascist with a toddler RP kink in 2008. Or that we couldn’t have known what kind of man he is. But rather that I don’t think the general public knew and understood in the early years of Tesla.

That being said, this seems to be a model 3 which got released in 2017… So I think that person was probably aware of the pedo cave thing at least.

It is so fucking odd, how many people are claiming that e.g. the male loneliness issue is blaming women and then agree with your post.

I agree with your post. I just don’t understand how so many people here can agree that the patriarchy is harming men and is e.g. isolating men, but then turn around and act like mentioning the symptoms and talking about them, makes you misogynistic.

I don’t get it. Women have my support, I just hope I will have theirs too.

The most insane thing is how common that is.

There are 3 other types that makes me feel stuff.

1. Bio: “I am a foodie and like to travel” there is no way that someone is that boring. Fuck, I am a it nerd, I am boring but I know more interesting stuff to say about me.

2. It is often plus sized women, but people whose profile screams that they have no confidence. When with 1., I feel even worse bad. Like girls, you are so much better than you present yourself. Honestly with that mental don’t be there, heal first. We are all amazing in our way, you just need to sell yourself properly.

3. As I lived in Singapore for a while, I have something else, women from neighboring countries setting their position to SG and trying to flirt with a white person (with his language skills listed) while not really knowing English at all. I get why but girl, I can’t love you if we can’t understand each other, you don’t want me to choose you if we don’t understand each other. For context, SG average yearly salary: 55k€, Malaysian average yearly salary: 16k€, Indonesian average yearly salary: 4,5k€. In their mind, a Singaporean is rich, and a white person in sg has higher education and a well paid job in SG. The dream of a white knight…

Oh boy! You serious? I said if it is real love and:

We need to make the difference between what each person thinks.

Let’s say, person A is 50+ yo and person B is 19yo.

If A doesn’t love B and B doesn’t live A, A is just getting a prostitute. And that can be judged for all the reasons, you can judge that for. And personally, I think using the service of a sex worker is yikes.

If A doesn’t love B and B loves A, then it is obvious why it is abusive and yikes.

If A loves B and B doesn’t love A, because B is in it for the money, A is doing what you quoted and B is taking advantage too but without necessarily knowing what that could mean down the line.

If A loves B and B loves A, A is doing what you quoted.

As I said in my comment, if it is real love, meaning of the side of A as I was judging his behavior, what I said remains true.

Thanks for showing us that you aren’t willing to think about the topic in detail. I will take that as a sign to end the conversation. Have a great day and try thinking about it.

It is fun how you ignore parts of my message. And i don’t think we talk about the same kind of desperation.

If you are human trafficking and you might get killed if you don’t earn enough money for your pimp, is not the same kind of desperation than what someone feels when they look at their account and see that they only have money for 1 month rent.

i have no interest to discuss what kind of desperation is or is not fine to abuse. Or what kind of desperation could possibly motivate someone to do anything.

In case, you are wondering what you are ignoring. 1. I don’t want, not I don’t. I need to eat, I don’t need to fuck a sex worker. 2. I said especially something like sex work, highlighting that I have a different set of rules for different kinds of stuff.