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  • Which of these isn’t real?

    • Most of Founding Fathers owned slaves
    • Elon Musk treats workers like shit
    • The Founding Fathers wrote pretty words about rights and freedoms
    • Elon Musk writes words about right and freedoms.
    • Founding Fathers were wealthy because of the work done by slaves
    • Elon Musk is wealthy because of work done by oppressed people under apartheid

    You keep saying I’m divorced from reality, but which of these things do you think isn’t real?



  • So you don’t believe that George Washington owned slaves? Talk about making up a reality in your head.

    You were indoctrinated from a young age to believe in the myth of the Founding Fathers. Everything you heard in school, all the the monuments, the faces printed on your currency all reinforce your beliefs. So I understand that it’s not easy to accept that these guys were the Elon Musks and Donald Trumps of their times. But it’s not some dead slave masters that guarantee your rights. This mentality results in apathy and taking rights for granted which made the US susceptible to fascism. Mythologizing a false past leads to people wanting to go back to that false past.

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say MAGA is about wanting to go back to full on slavery, but there is a feeling there that people of certain ethnicities should “know their place”. And people certainly “knew their place” when the Founding Fathers were running things didn’t they?



  • Most of the founding father fucking owned slaves.

    Elon Musk writes about rights and freedoms. Thomas Jefferson wrote about right and freedoms. Elon Musk is shit to the workers he gets his wealth from. Thomas Jefferson got his wealth from slaves. Elon Musk sexually harasses his female workers. Thomas Jefferson impregnated his slaves.

    Elon Musk and the other billionaires are being 100% consistent with the Founding Fathers you idolize. This is why arguing that these billionaire assholes aren’t “in keeping with the Founding Fathers” is so weak. Deep down we all know that these guys are acting exactly like the Founding Fathers. It really makes sense for so many people to think Trump, Musk and all the other scumbags are like the Founding Fathers because they actually are. They just aren’t like the mythologized Founding Fathers that you believe in. But the Founding Fathers you believe in never existed.

    The actual people were just a group of rich slave masters that wanted to take away more land from indigenous people. They wrote some nice words about rights and freedoms to fool people into being willing to die to serve their interests. Which is exactly what MAGA is all about isn’t it? Rich people talking big about rights and freedoms to get people to support them having more power.



  • I thought the purpose of the US founding fathers was to gain power to prevent the British government from having a say in abolishing slavery. Also so they could ignore the treaty the British made with the Indigenous peoples living to the west of the 13 colonies. They wanted that land and didn’t like those assholes in London preventing westward expansion via genocide.

    These people have been so intent on gathering money and power, they haven’t realized why the founding fathers did the exact opposite.

    You might be surprised about how consistent they are with the “Founding Fathers” by saying some nice words about “freedom” while their actions say the opposite. The American Revolution didn’t fundamentally alter things (slavery existed before and after the revolution) it only changed who was in power. Pretty words on a paper didn’t give people freedom. It was people voting, unionizing, and oh yeah, a bloody civil war that brought freedom. And then even more voting and unionizing and protesting for over a century.

    The US is a weird place not too dissimilar from the society depicted in 1984, just with Big Brother replaced by Founding Father. Founding Father isn’t watching over you. Founding Father was hypocritical slave-master that would have more in common with the likes of Elon Musk than they would ever have with you.

    Writing nice words about freedom while acquiring wealth from the work of slaves, isn’t that consistent with Elon Musk?



  • Yeah the shooter had something more like a rain jacket. But he may have put on the rain jacket that he wasn’t wearing earlier when going out to shoot the guy. Backpack is different, but that may have been stashed in the park.

    But what seems odd to me is that this whole thing was obviously premeditated, but a guy that’s intent on murder is smiling and chatting up the receptionist? I guess that’s possible, but something that further suggests that it’s a different dude.

    We really only have the top half of the faces looking somewhat similar in a couple of grainy images. It’s plausible it’s the same guy, but given the information we have, it’s more likely not. But we don’t have all the information, so who knows?






  • If you want people to use your website,

    Why do you assume that’s the end goal? Pretty sure their goal is to get paid. The website is a means to deliver content to people. If we’re talking about news sites, then I think they’d prefer people buy a newspaper. But since they have to have a website they need to figure out a way to make some money or they’re going to get laid off.

    Sucks for them.

    Well if we’re all having this attitude, then why should anyone care about your preferences for no ads? You’ve taken the low ground and anyone can now say “Sucks for you” if you don’t like seeing ads.




  • Most people aren’t all that well informed and don’t do a lot of crtical thinking about their political positions on things. Many people are only guided by their emotions.

    If your Church says that life begins at conception, then abortion is killing babies. So you’d be angry about abortions happening.

    If you hear a horrible crime, you’re angry about that and might want the person that did that crime to be executed. If you never hear about or think about innocent people being execute, never consider the ethical problems with a government killing people, never consider the costs of it, and all the other arguments against the death penalty, then you can go through life thinking there’s no problem with it.

    And even if you hear the rational arguments, they get overpowered by emotion the next time someone says “abortion is murder” or you hear about a horrible crime happening that might qualify for the death penalty.