You would be surprised how plentiful food is when there are no people eating it. Fishing with a spear would be easy. So as long as you can make a fire, you shouldn’t starve. But there would also be plenty of animals that would consider you food.

Testing it is how I found out it didn’t work. Lol. Got findroid and it worked great on the plane.

Yeah, install findroid and downloaded some stuff. I will try it out on this trip. Thanks

Thanks. I didn’t expect it to be in downloads, but sure enough, there it was. Lol

Sounds reality tv…

Okay, so the line about them being well known behind the bar seems odd to me if this was a holiday getaway. Is that implying that they vacationed there very often or something? In the US a comment like that would be reserved for people who live there.

Thanks. And yeah, I have edited my post to clarify. I generally pay very little attention to the day to day market conditions. So I just failed to take into account how many people are panicking because of the recent drop. I’ve been thinking about this for a couple weeks.

I will have to look up that 10k thing. That sounds like a smart idea with very little downside.

My thought are that the US is alienating more and more countries everyday. And maybe other countries may become less willing to aid US persecution of it’s own people, and less afraid of US sanctions if the US is already making trading with the US pointless. So my thinking was maybe international investment companies might have some amount of insulation. But I don’t really know a lot about how the money works behind the scenes.

Yeah, I don’t intend to flee easily. But my family is special… if they start targeting people like us, I may feel I have to flee to keep my kids safe. I wouldn’t want to cash out of the market, just maybe change who is managing it to protect it from the US gov if they come after us.

Actually I was thinking about this unrelated to the current market drop. It is fear based, but not based on the dropping market. Moving money now would certainly be terrible. I am thinking farther foreward and just wanting to know my options.

While my family aren’t immigrants, we are not far below them on the list of targets for this administration. So the time may come when the gov goes after us and we feel we need to flee before the gov targets us specifically. I just don’t know if there is anything I can do to ensure I will have access to money if we feel we need to flee.

In the case of investments it would be more like a transfer, then a pull out in my head. Maybe there are institutions I could move some of my investments to that would be out of reach of the US gov for example. I do have an after tax brokerage account for example. Not a ton in it, but unlike retirement money, it is probably free to move without penalty.

Number 2 is the only one that can write effectively on wood. I may not build a lot, but when I have tried to use a mechanical pencil for marking wood, it was a total fail.

Others were saying $2k… I am thankfully under $2500. Though I forgot insurance is wrapped in my monthly payment. So maybe I am under even $2k. I know rent around here is between $1k and $2k a month for a two bedroom apt though.

Not possible. Nature finds a way.

I wish my mortgage was that low.

I agree we don’t owe them anything. And if being uncivil will make a difference, I am all for it. But if it won’t help, then let’s stay civil. In this specific case, if the floor of the house becomes a circus, people will start voting for clowns intentionally. Because it will become a required skill. I would rather it not. We already have too many clowns in there as is. And someday I hope it can go back a bit toward what it is supposed to be. A place for compromise. Though I do admit that I don’t have a lot of hope.

Well a big part of it all is that the interruption doesn’t really make a difference. It’s a show, likely done to get attention on himself. If it were to be something very effective, that would be another story. But it will start us down a path where the chamber will resemble a WWE production. The original point though was that if the constituency of the dems that voted yes, support that vote, then they did thier job in representing thier voters. So that’s okay. If every vote follows strict party lines our government will be even more of a pendulum than it currently is. Swinging wildly to which ever side currently has the power.

I know it feels like it. But you could be in North Korea. That’s pretty close to rock bottom with very little hope of ever improving.

I think an awful lot of people around the world would argue we are nowhere near the bottom.

I’ve read otherwise on the costs of services per person and density. A fire station can only reasonably cover a certain amount of space. So low density housing means you need more fire stations for the same amount of people. And of course you need more road per person in general.

There is a case to be made for not joining the race to the bottom. But likely these people constituents would be in favor of them voting this way. And in the end, that is who they are supposed to represent.