I get what you’re saying, but I think the strong objection is that implementing this now, right when these BS laws are being put into place, goes against one of the fundamental principles that Linux is built on. And doing this is a willful action toward capitulating to Big Brother - because we all know this doesn’t stop with just put your b-day in and we will just trust you. This is a stepping stone toward more and more control and verified ID. Any part of the Linux community that does not openly defy this and stand against it will invariably be looked at as traitorous and collaborator. And if you take a moment and think about what this community stands for (yes, there’s a philosophy it’s not just software; there are very distinct ethical principles represented by Linux, regardless whether you dismiss this or not), it’s clear that this adding of the field now, to accommodate this Big Brother shit, is dispicable in the extreme.

That Linux has to have this? B. S. There’s no way that could be enforced. Make every edition an alpha testing release. Make it not work. Whatever you have to do. Just don’t capitulate and immediately do their exact bidding.

Exactly. I don’t get it. No matter how you lean politically, if you’re part of the dev community not just making software but building Linux - there’s an inherent sense of freedom and liberty in your endeavors. So unless these guys are long-seeded poison pills, I just don’t get the mentality. Don’t do it. Let it be someone else’s job. A someone else who is theoretical.

It just surprises me is all. In Linux of all places. One of the last remaining bastions of truly open, free, transparent and cooperative, voluntary yada yada. All that. It doesn’t gel with licking boots and willingly doing this shit without being forced. Also, they’re literally spitting on their devoted users and encouraging them to change to a different system.

CPU??? Only the most important spec is omitted?

I have literally in the thousands of installations I’ve done, literally never once put any genuine information in there. Who does? Why would anyone? Every tech through the ages has asked for your name as a matter of convenience and formality. I don’t know if I have ever put my actual info into any such field in the 40+ years - jeez close to 45 now, that I’ve been using computer tech.

The masses submit; the vast majority submits. When they start to bind it at the hardware level - when eventually a government issued ID becomes required to literally enable hardware to work, then we are all screwed. You can always make your own software but not so much make your own CPU.

Then when they need to deal with the older tech aftermarket so they pass laws prohibiting older tech, it’s all fucked.

Could someone explain to me why numerous Linux development groups are jumping on board with this bullshit? This is I think the third such post I’ve read that a distro or however you call it, is integrating the age check. Since when does the Linux community get on board with Big Brother???

99% of YouTube nowadays is clickbait and AI generated sewage. Along with plenty of the rest of the net. Before it was AI it was done with bots and scripts; it’s infesting everywhere.Everything decent has to get ruined by bottom-feeders.

I know you were just being glib, but I feel compelled to point out that given its context, it was only used as one might say “AI is all well and good, but…”, like just using it to get to the real point, which is that in-and-of itself, without a person acting upon the AI’s results, it is actually not great at all. Like any tool, it has to be used to help you accomplish something and not just set about to do your entire job for you. So he was actually saying the opposite.

I think pretty much any of the mainstream distros can be trusted as long as you make sure to check for any “opt-in” voluntary things that many people choose to allow. It’s good to help the developers do a better job ongoing to keep the distros as good as they can be. So if you have a reason to not want any of it, just check the options to make sure you know they’re shut off.

There are probably some distros which explicitly make a point to have absolutely no data sent, but you need to take into consideration what the best distro is for your needs irrespective of this one factor, since none are going to do this behind your back to the magnitude of Windoze or ChromeOS.

I have an Lposed module that you can indicate which apps you want to block updates for so they don’t get updated, regardless what any given shop tries. Easier than toggling it off for all those specific apps within each of Fdroid, Droidify, and Aurora.

There’s also Obtanium that lets you do updates a different way as well.

As for removing apps you can do so on any brew as long as you have root privileges. Sometimes you can even without, via ADB unless they’ve prevented it.

So I mean basically Linux phone doesn’t really need to be used as a way of making this an easier thing to accomplish. Root is right away the ultimate solution, and a custom ROM even better.

I don’t think I know what rocm is 🤪

Brave New World got it even better because in that book, everyone welcomed oppression with open arms and celebrated it.

Psssst. They’re “in on it.”

And the typical consumer has no critical thinking skills and also, is ignorant, and very often a moron, and a sucker. People aren’t smart. The appliances are lol. And the people at the top of giant companies have a greed that is insatiable.

Lesson: never buy an appliance that has internet connectivity.

I have /e on a Galaxy Note 4. It’s just like another Lineage or Cyanogen brew.

Aside from one desktop that still has Win 7 Pro on it for various reasons, and is almost entirely an internal server, every single system I use is Linux. Has been this way for at least a decade. My current laptop came with Winblows 11 but I booted first time straight into a Kubuntu flash drive to install it. Never even had to see that ugly ass Winblows.

I’ve got something running Pop, one running Debian, one has Elementary, I’ve got one with Bodhi, another with KDE Neon, one with Q4, and a variety of others.

Fuck Winblows the OS that is one giant virus.

Edit: oooh forgot my little guy running Kali. And also the dozen distros running in VMs on the Windows desktop.

Seriously, I don’t know if this is precisely accurate but definitely don’t spin down. Data errors, software problems if it has to wait for spin up and then something experiences a timeout.

I’ve had some drives spinning for like twenty years without any problems.

I have genuinely no idea how that could work

It couldn’t. It’s political showboating.