A year ago, I poked around Steam to see how many game developers were disclosing usage of Generative AI . It was around 1,000, which seemed like a lot to me at the time. If memory serves, that was about 1.1% of the entire Steam library, which has since seen 20,000+ more titles appear. I've been fol
You can’t “discuss” with someone who baldly asserts that musicians need to be making nearly double an average engineer’s salary in order to barely achieve comfort. You’re absolutely trolling if you expect someone to engage with that
Double an engineer’s salary?! Man… My brut is riiiiight below that… but musicians would not be employees so they would need to add other costs to their incomes so that they reach a similar net revenue…
Locally we consider that 47% of what you invoice reaches your pocket - not accounting for expenses like equipment which is crazy expensive in the music industry… is 4.7k an outrageous salary ?! For an engineer ?! Or even an artist?
Second, using statbel instead of the cancerous google AI gives another figure of 104k yearly for engineering positions (in IT but other industries aren’t so far behind).
And that still has fuckall to do with what would be a fair wage… and still doesn’t account for costs accounting on top of the salary which they would incur on top of the salary…
Are you so insisting because you deem artists needs a shit wage? Are they less deserving than engineers?
What disprovable information ? You took wrong figures and entirely ignored anything related to costs beside wage… you sidetracked any point on what constitutes a fair wage beside you general « double an engineer’s wage »…
You sound confident in your assessment of the facts, yes? I am equally confident that any reader will easily be able discern what your assessment is worth.
In this manner, we have reached the end of our discussion, yes? We are thusly settled?
That’s a new way to discuss… nice…
You can’t “discuss” with someone who baldly asserts that musicians need to be making nearly double an average engineer’s salary in order to barely achieve comfort. You’re absolutely trolling if you expect someone to engage with that
Double an engineer’s salary?! Man… My brut is riiiiight below that… but musicians would not be employees so they would need to add other costs to their incomes so that they reach a similar net revenue… Locally we consider that 47% of what you invoice reaches your pocket - not accounting for expenses like equipment which is crazy expensive in the music industry… is 4.7k an outrageous salary ?! For an engineer ?! Or even an artist?
Median engineer’s income in your country is 58k. Lots of information available for you for free on google
First, thanks for the doxxing.
Second, using statbel instead of the cancerous google AI gives another figure of 104k yearly for engineering positions (in IT but other industries aren’t so far behind).
And that still has fuckall to do with what would be a fair wage… and still doesn’t account for costs accounting on top of the salary which they would incur on top of the salary…
Are you so insisting because you deem artists needs a shit wage? Are they less deserving than engineers?
You’re welcome! It’s very easy to “dox” someone who uses random non english words, just so you know
Anyway, your easily disprovable misinformation has been presented. Congratulations. Are we just about settled here, then?
What disprovable information ? You took wrong figures and entirely ignored anything related to costs beside wage… you sidetracked any point on what constitutes a fair wage beside you general « double an engineer’s wage »…
What’s settled here?
You and me!
You sound confident in your assessment of the facts, yes? I am equally confident that any reader will easily be able discern what your assessment is worth.
In this manner, we have reached the end of our discussion, yes? We are thusly settled?
No you crazy person… but should it bring you peace of mind whatever…