Ok so I bring this up all over Lemmy for this reason and people always push back like “har har ok touch grass”
Why the hell do you need to identify yourself in a digital world. How fucking mental are we to not realize you are on a device that offers anonymity whole allowing you to engage and capture as many people as you’re willing to do.
How much effect did libsotiktok inflict? How’d she do it?
How much effect did… Anyone have any examples of that on the left?
Why? Well maybe it’s because online accounts on the left keep telling others to not engage, remove ourselves from platforms, show up in IRL resulting in lots of images of people like you getting your head kicked in and disappear.
Maybe it’s time to realize its free and fun to download meme and use AI to create shit posts online with the intention of keeping things in front of the public’s eye. The left keeps picking fights on arenas it cannot win and it’s weirdly not correcting for it.
It’s 2025, everything is fucking digital. Why is the left so hell bent on standing in a street and getting beat up by people who have trained for 8 years to beat them up effectively.
Come on people, it’s not 1967 FFS
Gimp is free. What the fuck are people sleeping on.
“Oh guys I’m conflicted, I want you do something but I don’t want to get arrested and harassed.”
“Ok here’s an Internet connection, a VPN and few software plus free accounts. You just need to make fun of them, share opinions and network online in your underwear.”
“No, no no that’s crazy talk.”
Meanwhile the fucking right shit posted their way into they presidency. Trump talked about cat litter in classrooms, officially. Sunshine to kill COVID. Doesn’t matter.
You people act like you’re my grandmother trying to send an email.
Back in the day the left were the tech people. Now uncle Glenn with 8 Trump flags on his truck admin for 30 let’s go Brandon Facebook groups.
The Left does both. The purpose of real life stikes and protests is because its proof that Leftist organizations have the logistical capacity to plan, demonstrate, and act in a cohesive and unified manner. Organizing is more important than meme sharing. Memes, agitprop, etc are very useful recruitment tools, so they should not be ignored, but it’s more important to actually put in the work of organizing effectively once recruited.
Sharing memes without actually organizing is just an outlet for people to express frustration, but organizing is an actual necessary and important step in toppling the existing system and replacing it with a better one, as the hard work on organizing has already been laid out.
There’s no way you can say it’s more important given that all the left has done is show up for protests, including multiple “greatest protests ever” and all the right does is shit post and has nothing but victories. That math doesn’t math.
I have no idea how none of you see this. It’s like horse blinders or worse, willful ignorance.
You cannot spend decades losing and doing the thing you said while the right has shit posted digitally into the Whitehouse. They still do it daily. There’s a reason RSA and Cambridge and all these companies and nations invested into channels and digital tools.
The Left is fighting an uphill battle. Capitalism is the status quo, and the US relies on imperialism using its vast financial capital and massive number of millitary bases to keep goods relatively cheap, but this is crumbling. Change works as quantitative buildup until significant, qualitative change. Orgs like PSL are growing rapidly. They are still small, but the rate of growth is large. Time is on the Left’s side.
Just look at Palestine, as an example. 5 years ago, the vast majority of the US was Zionist. Now, the majority oppose the genocide. Mamdani winning the primary in NYC shows that more overtly left-leaning individuals are valued over right-wingers like Cuomo. Change works on trends. History doesn’t reset every day, eventually water droplets bore through stone. The left has never been in the White House, it has always been a toss between the right amd the far-right, this isn’t a new struggle, but it’s one that is changing every day thanks to historical work.
You’re literally saying my point but missing the whole picture.
Mamdani one out of spite. Not because the left did anything successful but because of the actions of the right. If we see more of these victory’s I’ll be happy. But right now I have yet to see the left do anything of any significance.
You bore through stone with digital media. It’s the only damn thing that makes sense. If the left truly believes it has the numbers then the only answers is to use this numbers to flood the zone. Use the Internet as a force multiplier.
If we truly believe the right are buying bots to push agendas there’s a fucking limit how much it costs. If we have the numbers, flood the fucking zone because when you flood the fucking zone it costs them more to counter it. Which is why the dominate comment among the left is … Say it with me… “Don’t wrestle with pigs” right? We all know that saying as if it was repeated in zones and we all read it over and over again and went yea it’s useless why would we ever give our opinion. We need to create content, not protest in the streets. We need to keep stories said news in front of people’s eyes through memes and shit posts. Let the good ones catch on. Taco last 24 hrs.
The reason the left is losing is not because of the right. They’re losing because of the left. The left is losing because there are traits that are inherent with being on the left that unless they figure it out, they’ll always lose.
These people are all talk “we’ll go punch a Nazi and fight in imaginary freedom wars” but can’t be bothered to spend a few hours a week building a network to share content to flood zones and at the very least make the rights ability to flood the zone much harder and costly.
No, lol. The Left is fine on the internet. You can touch grass and organize, and do online agitprop. Mamdani won because people are being radicalized. Even then, Mamdani doesn’t eliminate the need for revolution, not even close.
I guarantee you Mamdani did not win because people are radicalized.
But I agree people are being radicalized. Cuomo’s had to kill everyone’s grandmother and Trump had to basically bring the empire to reality for Mamdani to win.
Let’s make a prediction here. I bet Mamdani is going to get crucified. The Lefts lack of awareness and ability to do what I’m saying which is control zones online will contribute massively to Mamdani failing. The right will pull every thing they can and sabotage him. The left having failed to build any networks will not be able to control the public opinion and will watch their one shot to show a more leftist politician can be successful.
Because if what you’re saying is true, then people who are radicalized and supportive of Mamdani aren’t going to let him get pushed around. But if I’m right, these voters are only supporting out of spite and will let him be crucified.
Hell trump just said he’ll arrest his ass. Mouse squeak can be heard. I bet some people reading this hadn’t even heard of that. Had this been a let president saying this, there would be armed militias showing up at the White House to remind the government about the constitution. And they would have organized between their multiple shit posting groups that are networked together
There have never been left presidents in the US. Mamdani is not the leader of the revolution. You’re very confused about what’s going on, and you’re out of touch with why Trump won. It wasn’t “memes,” it isn’t some masterful play, nor are liberals left wing.
You need to take a step back and familiarize yourself more with what’s going on. Try to take a materialist outlook, not an idealist outlook.
Where the hell was it said he’s a leader of any revolution.
There’s no confusion. You’ll either wake up one day and realize how late to the party you all are.
I have taken a step back which is why I’m able to see the issue. The problem is you’re in it. You have blinders on.
The left is cooked. You’re highlighting exactly why. The left act like we don’t have decades of marketing and behavioral science that shows how to influence people.
Keep showing up for those protests and door knocking and when you lose, blame those low information voters and idiots who keep beating you while doing none of what you’re doing
And if you think you can wear the defense that “well they’re just supported with more money like Peter Thiel or Steve Bannon or Musk” it won’t work. Their money is only doing what we all do for free except or effort is put towards vapid platforms and bean Sheeran moth posts. Theirs are focused and self organized
Ok so I bring this up all over Lemmy for this reason and people always push back like “har har ok touch grass”
Why the hell do you need to identify yourself in a digital world. How fucking mental are we to not realize you are on a device that offers anonymity whole allowing you to engage and capture as many people as you’re willing to do.
How much effect did libsotiktok inflict? How’d she do it?
How much effect did… Anyone have any examples of that on the left?
Why? Well maybe it’s because online accounts on the left keep telling others to not engage, remove ourselves from platforms, show up in IRL resulting in lots of images of people like you getting your head kicked in and disappear.
Maybe it’s time to realize its free and fun to download meme and use AI to create shit posts online with the intention of keeping things in front of the public’s eye. The left keeps picking fights on arenas it cannot win and it’s weirdly not correcting for it.
It’s 2025, everything is fucking digital. Why is the left so hell bent on standing in a street and getting beat up by people who have trained for 8 years to beat them up effectively.
Come on people, it’s not 1967 FFS Gimp is free. What the fuck are people sleeping on.
“Oh guys I’m conflicted, I want you do something but I don’t want to get arrested and harassed.”
“Ok here’s an Internet connection, a VPN and few software plus free accounts. You just need to make fun of them, share opinions and network online in your underwear.”
“No, no no that’s crazy talk.”
Meanwhile the fucking right shit posted their way into they presidency. Trump talked about cat litter in classrooms, officially. Sunshine to kill COVID. Doesn’t matter.
You people act like you’re my grandmother trying to send an email.
Back in the day the left were the tech people. Now uncle Glenn with 8 Trump flags on his truck admin for 30 let’s go Brandon Facebook groups.
The Left does both. The purpose of real life stikes and protests is because its proof that Leftist organizations have the logistical capacity to plan, demonstrate, and act in a cohesive and unified manner. Organizing is more important than meme sharing. Memes, agitprop, etc are very useful recruitment tools, so they should not be ignored, but it’s more important to actually put in the work of organizing effectively once recruited.
Sharing memes without actually organizing is just an outlet for people to express frustration, but organizing is an actual necessary and important step in toppling the existing system and replacing it with a better one, as the hard work on organizing has already been laid out.
There’s no way you can say it’s more important given that all the left has done is show up for protests, including multiple “greatest protests ever” and all the right does is shit post and has nothing but victories. That math doesn’t math.
I have no idea how none of you see this. It’s like horse blinders or worse, willful ignorance.
You cannot spend decades losing and doing the thing you said while the right has shit posted digitally into the Whitehouse. They still do it daily. There’s a reason RSA and Cambridge and all these companies and nations invested into channels and digital tools.
The Left is fighting an uphill battle. Capitalism is the status quo, and the US relies on imperialism using its vast financial capital and massive number of millitary bases to keep goods relatively cheap, but this is crumbling. Change works as quantitative buildup until significant, qualitative change. Orgs like PSL are growing rapidly. They are still small, but the rate of growth is large. Time is on the Left’s side.
Just look at Palestine, as an example. 5 years ago, the vast majority of the US was Zionist. Now, the majority oppose the genocide. Mamdani winning the primary in NYC shows that more overtly left-leaning individuals are valued over right-wingers like Cuomo. Change works on trends. History doesn’t reset every day, eventually water droplets bore through stone. The left has never been in the White House, it has always been a toss between the right amd the far-right, this isn’t a new struggle, but it’s one that is changing every day thanks to historical work.
You’re literally saying my point but missing the whole picture.
Mamdani one out of spite. Not because the left did anything successful but because of the actions of the right. If we see more of these victory’s I’ll be happy. But right now I have yet to see the left do anything of any significance.
You bore through stone with digital media. It’s the only damn thing that makes sense. If the left truly believes it has the numbers then the only answers is to use this numbers to flood the zone. Use the Internet as a force multiplier.
If we truly believe the right are buying bots to push agendas there’s a fucking limit how much it costs. If we have the numbers, flood the fucking zone because when you flood the fucking zone it costs them more to counter it. Which is why the dominate comment among the left is … Say it with me… “Don’t wrestle with pigs” right? We all know that saying as if it was repeated in zones and we all read it over and over again and went yea it’s useless why would we ever give our opinion. We need to create content, not protest in the streets. We need to keep stories said news in front of people’s eyes through memes and shit posts. Let the good ones catch on. Taco last 24 hrs.
The reason the left is losing is not because of the right. They’re losing because of the left. The left is losing because there are traits that are inherent with being on the left that unless they figure it out, they’ll always lose.
These people are all talk “we’ll go punch a Nazi and fight in imaginary freedom wars” but can’t be bothered to spend a few hours a week building a network to share content to flood zones and at the very least make the rights ability to flood the zone much harder and costly.
No, lol. The Left is fine on the internet. You can touch grass and organize, and do online agitprop. Mamdani won because people are being radicalized. Even then, Mamdani doesn’t eliminate the need for revolution, not even close.
I guarantee you Mamdani did not win because people are radicalized.
But I agree people are being radicalized. Cuomo’s had to kill everyone’s grandmother and Trump had to basically bring the empire to reality for Mamdani to win.
Let’s make a prediction here. I bet Mamdani is going to get crucified. The Lefts lack of awareness and ability to do what I’m saying which is control zones online will contribute massively to Mamdani failing. The right will pull every thing they can and sabotage him. The left having failed to build any networks will not be able to control the public opinion and will watch their one shot to show a more leftist politician can be successful.
Because if what you’re saying is true, then people who are radicalized and supportive of Mamdani aren’t going to let him get pushed around. But if I’m right, these voters are only supporting out of spite and will let him be crucified.
Hell trump just said he’ll arrest his ass. Mouse squeak can be heard. I bet some people reading this hadn’t even heard of that. Had this been a let president saying this, there would be armed militias showing up at the White House to remind the government about the constitution. And they would have organized between their multiple shit posting groups that are networked together
There have never been left presidents in the US. Mamdani is not the leader of the revolution. You’re very confused about what’s going on, and you’re out of touch with why Trump won. It wasn’t “memes,” it isn’t some masterful play, nor are liberals left wing.
You need to take a step back and familiarize yourself more with what’s going on. Try to take a materialist outlook, not an idealist outlook.
Where the hell was it said he’s a leader of any revolution.
There’s no confusion. You’ll either wake up one day and realize how late to the party you all are.
I have taken a step back which is why I’m able to see the issue. The problem is you’re in it. You have blinders on.
The left is cooked. You’re highlighting exactly why. The left act like we don’t have decades of marketing and behavioral science that shows how to influence people.
Keep showing up for those protests and door knocking and when you lose, blame those low information voters and idiots who keep beating you while doing none of what you’re doing
And if you think you can wear the defense that “well they’re just supported with more money like Peter Thiel or Steve Bannon or Musk” it won’t work. Their money is only doing what we all do for free except or effort is put towards vapid platforms and bean Sheeran moth posts. Theirs are focused and self organized