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minus-squareFaceDeer@fedia.iolinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down3·9 days ago Why would it suddenly stop being art because you pirated it? Your whole argument so far has been that AI art isn’t art because the copyright holders of the stuff the models were trained on weren’t being paid. I define art as something made by a being with consciousness. Ah, finally a different argument. Though it now simply transfers the question to how one measures “consciousness.” Found art isn’t art, then? Or algorithmic art? Photography?
minus-squareorca@orcas.enjoying.yachtslinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down1·9 days agoI know someone that does algorithmic art with Python and WebGL. There’s a skill behind it. Just like there’s art and skill behind the work that runs modern LLMs. Found art is art. So is algorithmic, multimedia, etc. Running an LLM and feeding it yours and your friends’ own art to train on? Go for it. Art generated solely for profit, by billionaires, through piracy methods they’d sue the fuck out of you for using? Trash.
minus-squareFaceDeer@fedia.iolinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down2·9 days ago Art generated solely for profit, by billionaires, through piracy methods they’d sue the fuck out of you for using? Trash. We barely got through one exchange before you wound up right back at “you have to pay for it to be art.” So much for the involvement of consciousness.
minus-squareorca@orcas.enjoying.yachtslinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down1·9 days agoWhy don’t you have a talk with the capitalists that made it about profit in the first place. Nobody is saying money makes it art. That’s the fucking point. It’s not. Capitalism forced it to be.
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Your whole argument so far has been that AI art isn’t art because the copyright holders of the stuff the models were trained on weren’t being paid.
Ah, finally a different argument. Though it now simply transfers the question to how one measures “consciousness.”
Found art isn’t art, then? Or algorithmic art? Photography?
I know someone that does algorithmic art with Python and WebGL. There’s a skill behind it.
Just like there’s art and skill behind the work that runs modern LLMs.
Found art is art. So is algorithmic, multimedia, etc.
Running an LLM and feeding it yours and your friends’ own art to train on? Go for it.
Art generated solely for profit, by billionaires, through piracy methods they’d sue the fuck out of you for using? Trash.
We barely got through one exchange before you wound up right back at “you have to pay for it to be art.”
So much for the involvement of consciousness.
Why don’t you have a talk with the capitalists that made it about profit in the first place. Nobody is saying money makes it art. That’s the fucking point. It’s not. Capitalism forced it to be.